Sun wants Linux on T1

TechWorld ^ | 27 January 2006 | Patrick Thibodeau

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[fzx12345]

Solaris...dying?

[N3WBI3]

unnamed Linux distributors to develop the port.

Im going to take a guess from left field and sy they are working with Novell. Suse has always had a larger harware profile than RedHat...

[neb52]

I think its more like Sun dying then just their OS. Linux will allow them to reach the entry and mid level server market better. They may not make money on their trademarked OS, but at least they can sell the proprietary hardware and keep production cost down for it. Its the same as what IBM did, but many years late. I really don't see Sun surviving on its own for much longer.

[zeugma]

I'm still not entirely sure what the allure of running Linux on Sun hardware is. Solaris rocks on their own hardware an is extremely stable.

$ uptime
 12:34pm  up 1221 day(s), 20:44,  1 user,  load average: 0.00, 0.02, 0.02
$

Granted, the above is an internal webserver without a hell of a lot of load on it, but 1221 days is good in anyone's book.

I can understand making Solaris available on Intel hardware, as it allows folks who work with Sun hardware to have an inexpensive way to have Solaris available on a workstation without the expense of a full-blown Sun Server.

Why would anyone run Linux on production Sun hardware?

[neb52]

How much does a entry level Sun box run?

I'm assuming they are trying to offer the hardware to a broader market then what they are able to obtain with running their OS on. On any forums concerning Unix/Linux I rarely see Sun's name mention. Usually its AIX or one of the BSD variants. If I was Sun I would see that as a big marketing flop. Plus Solaris 10 requires a lot more in resources then any of the Linux variants.

I see this as the same as IBM embracing Linux a few years back. It insures that IBM hardware continues to get used in the entry and mid level server market, which helps keep the manufacturing cost of the PowerPC chip down. Otherwise they would have be relegated to being just a high end server manufacturer.

[neb52]

Note: I looked at Sun's website and the prices are about $1,000 higher than comparable IBM Servers.

[Ernest_at_the_Beach]

84821RU
84821RU IBM xSeries 206 P4-2.8GHz/512MB/36.4GB U320 SCSI/48x/Gigabit NIC - Tower. New Retail 3 year warranty , In stock!!

$780.00

At $1000....Sun has a problem!!!

[Ernest_at_the_Beach]

Left out reference:

ComputerGiants.com.

[zeugma]

I see this as the same as IBM embracing Linux a few years back. It insures that IBM hardware continues to get used in the entry and mid level server market, which helps keep the manufacturing cost of the PowerPC chip down. Otherwise they would have be relegated to being just a high end server manufacturer.

That could well be. I'm not sure how well that will work out though. Have you ever tried to install Solaris on an Intel box? I did several years ago and it was disappointing to say the least. You basically ended up with an OS. Even such basic tools as gzip had to be installed separately. Kinda reminded me of what you end up with once you install a Microsoft OS. I don't know if that is still true, but for low-end systems, it was definitely easier to install Linux as so many of the really useful tools were bundled with it. On the plus side, you can now install KDE and/or Gnome for Solaris. CDE was the Worst Window Manager Ever.

[neb52]

I had some experience with Solaris 9 and recently tried to load 10, was told I needed at least 400MB of RAM to run the graphic installer :( (I have 256MB in my test box).

[neb52]

I was comparing the IBM PowerPC based server like the p5 505 to one of the UltraSPARC 111i based servers. Proprietary against proprietary. I did see one of the models to be better, but the others looked to be higher for number of processors/memory/SCSI Hard Drives. Otherwise Sun has AMD based models that are competitive and should be able to run Linux already. I just think to be able to continue the prorietary line of CPUs that they feel the need to expand what OSes run on it.

[Golden Eagle]

Why would anyone run Linux on production Sun hardware?

Some people hate anything other than Linux. They are quite fanatical about it, and are typically referred to as "zealots". They put Sun down at every opportunity, ignore all of Sun's contributions to open source as hypocritical, even accuse them of attacking Linux along with SCO and Microsoft. Surely you've seen them, impossible to miss these days.

[zeugma]

You know, noone missed you when you were gone for the past month.

Due to the extremely large number of inaccurate and idiotic posts you've presented to this point, and your tendancy to encompass the very definition of the word "troll" on this forum, you are no longer relevant. Thanks and have a nice day.

[Golden Eagle]

I encourage everyone to follow your link, and see how many times I have to correct others on here, including yourself multiple times.

In this particular case, you questioned why some people would do stupid things, and I gave you the answer. Are you claiming I was incorrect?

[zeugma]

It's way past time that I have felt any desire whatsoever to converse with you about anything at all. Go harass someone else.

Due to the extremely large number of inaccurate and idiotic posts you've presented to this point, and your tendancy to encompass the very definition of the word "troll" on this forum, you are no longer relevant. Thanks and have a nice day.

[Golden Eagle]

You're not going to call me a troll and dance off into the sunset pal. I'm here correcting all the BS that is constantly posted, in fact it hasn't even been but a few short months ago you were apologizing on here for attacking me out of the blue and being completely wrong in your assesment. Follow your link to my history and find it if you forgot.

As for my posts on this thread, if you think I'm wrong then try to refute it. But you haven't proven me wrong yet, and until you do, I'm obviously not a troll. I'm a guy that cuts BS down to the nub, whether you like it or not.

[zeugma]

Perhaps you'll hear it if it is in a bigger font...

Due to the extremely large number of inaccurate and idiotic posts you've presented to this point, and your tendancy to encompass the very definition of the word "troll" on this forum, you are no longer relevant. Thanks and have a nice day.

[Golden Eagle]

Typical, increase the font when your BS is exposed, and calling me a troll is obvious BS since you can't ever refute anything I say. Witness this little exchange, you sling a few names around and increase your font, LMAO.