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this topic is getting a bit of attention over at this thread (posts in the 20s):
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1561483/posts
Does anyone remember the movie "Chariots of Fire"? Missionary Eric Liddell was played by British actor Ian Charleson, who later died of AIDS.
Heard an interview with the son on radio yesterday. He wasn't happy with it. Director threatened to walk if he didn't keep the role.
I believe that the interview was on Michael Medved.
But don't let it keep you from seeing the film if you are inclined. It is still outside of the Hollywood system and has a positive message.
What would be interesting is to see if the experience made him think about Christianity.
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Hmmmmmmmm, I would like to hear how he believes this was the Lord's plan
I am not surprised. It's not like the old days when John Wayne and Steve McQueen got the leading roles.
You can't ask whether a person is gay when you hire them for a movie role. You can figure that at least 10% of the roles played will be played by queers, because the number of gay people in acting is incredibly high.
I hear the movie is great.
On a related note, I saw Narnia Thursday night. Beyond excellent. I would enjoy seeing it again. But, did you know, the Mr. Beaver was played by a gay woodchuck?
Here are some statements from gay activist Chad Allen which he made on Larry King Live this last week:
But I have to say, if they're going to speak about absolute transcendent truth, I need to tell you, I know absolute transcendent truth. I have a deep relationship with God and my understanding. It's very powerful, and it's taken its own shape and form. And I am very much at peace in the knowledge that in my heart God created this beautiful expression of my love.
You know, I made this movie with a group of conservative Christians who do not agree with my expression of sexuality. But we said to each other, I will walk with you accepting your differences and we can create together. I will give you your space to respect you fully. They don't need to take away from my freedom, I don't need to take away from theirs. And I am so proud to have done that. That's the kind of bridge-building I think we can get to.
These days I judge all of my actions by my relationship with God of my understanding. It is a deep-founded, faith-based belief in God based upon the work that I've done growing up as a Catholic boy and then reaching out to Buddhism philosophy, to Hindu philosophy, to Native American beliefs and finally as I got through my course with addiction and alcoholism and finding a higher power that worked for me.
You know, I had to sit down with that same God today and say, "Do you want me to go on this show? Do you want me to speak the things that are in my heart? And if not, I'm happy not to go. Do you want me to make this movie?" It's the same God that I go to for every decision.
I play a Christian, yes. And they're going to be saying, "This is the way you be Christian, there's only one way." Well you know what, there isn't. I'm a part of a wonderful community church here in Pasadena that has a very different interpretation of those same gospels that they are speaking of. There isn't just one way to do this, there are a lot of paths.
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Concerning the tragic death of the men, one needs to remember some history. Those 'savage' jungle dwelling tribes were not so isolated from the outside world as some would think. Consider the 'Christian' history of the previous centuries that took place in what is known as present day Ecuador and Peru.
In the mid 1400s the Incas (Peru) conquered, with great difficulty, the kingdom of Quito (Ecuador). In 1493, that kingdom was incorporated into the Inca empire through marriage. A son of that marriage, Atahualpa, became the absolute monarch.
Meanwhile in about 1522, hearing the tales of the fabled Inca empire, Spanish soldier Francisco Pizarro, adventurer Diego de Almagro, and a priest, Fernando deLuque, undertook plans for conquest. Luque procured funds for the expedition but did not live to see the final 'triumph' (really just another true story of greed and corruption).
In 1532, Pizarro, his brothers, and their army, met with Inca Atahualpa at Cajamarca. The king, after spurnning the Spaniards God was taken prisoner, and thousands of his men were killed. Atahualpa was executed less than a year later. Then the Spaniards took Cuzco and practically all resistance ceased.
Pizarro installed a puppet Inca, who was succeeded by Manco Capac, who led a rebellion, and held Cuzco under seige. Pizarro's buddy, Almagro, short changed when splitting up the spoils, had gone down into Chile. He returned in 1537, took Cuzco for himself. The Pizarros didn't like that, so they captured their old sidekick and executed him in 1538. (Some of Almagro's followers later rose up in 1541, and slew Pizarro in Lima.)
In 1539, Francisco's brother, Gonzalo Pizarro, was appointed governor of Quito. He led a disastrous expedition into the jungles of eastern Ecuador and struggled back in 1542, to find that his brother had been murdered.
So what was the native opinion of the foreigners that came to occupy Ecuador, Peru, and Chile? They no doubt saw that the foreigners were religious, yet were greed driven murderers, killing natives and each other.
Four centuries later, some men choose to witness Jesus Christ to some jungle people in Ecuador. They may have been slightly unaware of the natives view of outsiders. What is the traditions that have been handed down to these natives? They probably had heard the tales handed down from long ago (and some more recent) that made them suspicious of outsiders, to the point of preemptive strike.
I say all of this to point out that the Devil has used 'Christianity' to try and give the unconverted a bad opinion of it. Which makes true witnessing all the more difficult, even in the good 'ol US of A.
He can change..and repent. He needs a chance and guidance.