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Popular priest tells parish he's gay, but celibate
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| 01/08/06
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Posted on 01/08/2006 5:54:51 PM PST by Ellesu
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posted on
01/08/2006 5:54:54 PM PST
by
Ellesu
To: Ellesu
"C'mon, c'mon, c'mon, c'mon,
Now touch me, babe!..."
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posted on
01/08/2006 5:57:14 PM PST
by
golas1964
("He tasks me... He tasks me, and I shall have him!")
To: Ellesu
Anyone want to take a guess at the percentage of gay priests?
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posted on
01/08/2006 5:57:35 PM PST
by
Callahan
To: Ellesu
ARgh! Of course he's celibate--he's not married. The word is chaste--they take a vow of chastitiy--when is this going to reach the journalism style handbooks?
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posted on
01/08/2006 5:57:54 PM PST
by
Mamzelle
To: Ellesu
Why do gays think that we want to hear all about it?
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posted on
01/08/2006 5:58:03 PM PST
by
SteveMcKing
("No empire collapses because of technical reasons. They collapse because they are unnatural.")
To: Callahan
Anyone want to take a guess at the percentage of gay priests?About the same as the general population, or maybe the same as Baptist ministers!!
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posted on
01/08/2006 5:59:33 PM PST
by
phil1750
(Love like you've never been hurt;Dance like nobody's watching;PRAY like it's your last prayer)
To: Ellesu
I generally presume that a priest is celibate. He takes such a vow upon his investiture. Nonetheless, I guess that "celibate" can take a number of meanings.
What is the direction of his counseling would be my next question. Again, I presume he counsels his parishoners with the Church's teaching.
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posted on
01/08/2006 6:01:21 PM PST
by
Lawgvr1955
(You can never have too much cowbell !!)
To: phil1750
About the same as the general population, or maybe the same as Baptist ministers!!Either you don't know many Catholic priests' or your "GAYDAR" is broke.
To: Ellesu
really? I wonder what his boyfriend has to say about it?
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posted on
01/08/2006 6:02:43 PM PST
by
pipecorp
(Let's have a CRUSADE! , the 'slims have already started. 1900 useless replies and still going!)
To: Ellesu
Dumb, dumb, dumb, dumb, dumb.
Being "honest" doesn't require this. The only thing such a confession can accomplish is to further undermine the Church he is supposed to be serving.
Did he give any thought at all to what the children of his parish would make of this? Bad enough to get it in school and on the TV set, without getting it in church too.
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posted on
01/08/2006 6:03:24 PM PST
by
Cicero
(Marcus Tullius)
To: Callahan
Anyone want to take a guess at the percentage of gay priests? No, Harry, I do not. I think I'd like to keep my head in the sand on this one, ok?
BTW, wrong context on this - chastity.
LVM
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posted on
01/08/2006 6:04:06 PM PST
by
LasVegasMac
(The only thing slowing me down is the A**hole in front of me!)
To: phil1750
About the same as the general population Sure, if you're talking about the general population of Fire Island.
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posted on
01/08/2006 6:06:56 PM PST
by
Callahan
To: Cicero
Too late. The kids would be more surprised if he revealed he was straight.
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posted on
01/08/2006 6:09:28 PM PST
by
Callahan
To: Ellesu
Popular priest tells parish he's gay, but celibateJimmuh Carter tells the world he's an adulterer in his heart, but faithful otherwise.
We all are tempted to sin, we also choose to do so.
I may be tempted to steal, but only I choose to steal.
I may have a predisposition to steal, another may have a predisposition to commit adultery or engage in gay behavior; but, I was not made to lie, cheat, steal, or commit sexual sin. I choose to indulge my sin.
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posted on
01/08/2006 6:12:37 PM PST
by
mombonn
(¡Viva Bush/Cheney!)
To: Callahan
One of the few things which Freud said that makes sense is that kids go through a latency stage, when they don't normally think about sex. It's just not a concern to them. We are doing them no favors by saturating the air with sex, sex, sex all the time. Now you can't even go to Mass and listen to a sermon without being exposed to some guy coming out of the closet.
It's just not part of his job description to do something like this. His bishop should ship him off to Siberia.
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posted on
01/08/2006 6:16:03 PM PST
by
Cicero
(Marcus Tullius)
To: SteveMcKing
a popular priest has told his family, his bishop and the people in his parish that he is gay...
In a written statement Saturday, Bishop Sam G. Jacobs said the Roman Catholic Church makes a clear distinction between homosexual actions and orientation.
As Jesus says, one judges a tree by the fruit it bears.
One cannot, perhaps, control the thoughts that enter the mind unbidden. However, one can certainly control those thoughts invited to stay. Most definitely, one can control the thoughts on which one chooses to act.
Why would anyone, especially a priest, want others to know what thoughts, or even the kind of thoughts, that might enter his mind unbidden? If these thoughts generate no action, then they are no business, or even meaning, to anyone else in the normal course of events.
There is a strong implication of a not-so-hidden agenda in this priests action. I suspect "fruits" are to follow.
To: Cicero
"Being "honest" doesn't require this. The only thing such a confession can accomplish is to further undermine the Church he is supposed to be serving.
Did he give any thought at all to what the children of his parish would make of this? Bad enough to get it in school and on the TV set, without getting it in church too"
The fact that he would discuss this in front of children, without warning, if he did so, validates your post, and tells me he is part of the "homo promo" agenda.
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posted on
01/08/2006 6:17:29 PM PST
by
del4hope
(Snowflake....with school excuse)
To: mombonn
If we are tempted to steal and don't, does that make one a thief?
If we are tempted to lie and don't, does that make one a lier?
If we are tempted to cheat on our spouse and don't, does that make one an adulterer?
What then makes this "celibate" priest gay?????
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posted on
01/08/2006 6:20:33 PM PST
by
del4hope
(Snowflake....with school excuse)
To: Lucky Dog
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posted on
01/08/2006 6:22:01 PM PST
by
SteveMcKing
("No empire collapses because of technical reasons. They collapse because they are unnatural.")
To: Mamzelle
Of course he's celibate--he's not married. The word is chaste--they take a vow of chastitiy--when is this going to reach the journalism style handbooks?Diocesan priests make a promise of celibacy, religious order priests make a vow of chastity. The two terms are synonyms, particularly with regard to the Priesthood. Anyone who tries to argue otherwise is either not very bright or a liar.
Main Entry: cel·i·ba·cy
Pronunciation: 'se-l&-b&-sE
Function: noun
1 : the state of not being married
2 a : abstention from sexual intercourse b : abstention by vow from marriage
Main Entry: chas·ti·ty
Pronunciation: 'chas-t&-tE
Function: noun
1 : the quality or state of being chaste : as a : abstention from unlawful sexual intercourse b : abstention from all sexual intercourse c : purity in conduct and intention d : restraint and simplicity in design or expression
2 : personal integrity
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