Posted on 01/07/2006 6:24:21 AM PST by Corin Stormhands
Beamer and others will discuss Marcus Vick's situation more today
Virginia Tech quarterback Marcus Vick was kicked off the team yesterday after yet another legal problem for him surfaced.
Tech President Charles Steger said in a news release that Vick "has been permanently dismissed from the Hokie football program due to a cumulative effect of legal infractions and unsportsmanlike play."
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affiction = affliction
Sounds vaguely familiar - Marcus Vick, up against a fast, powerful defense, this time from Miami. End result: Vick goes 8-22 with 2 INTs and 0 TDs. VT gets blown out 27-7, in a game that wasn't as close as the score indicates.
Yes, and I have a strong suspicion ESPN will be on that bandwagon, too. Who knows, Wolf Blitzer may get into the act, as well.
I plaed at USC from 1974 to 1976, then transferred. It was made clear to us that if we screwed up it would lead to a suspension, and if we really screwed up (a la Vick) we'd be off the team, and coach McKay didn't care how good we were. Robinson was the same way.
That's grossly inaccurate. Tech kicked him off the team for an entire season previously.
Thanks for confirming my memory of that ugly incident with Laettner.
LOL So true!
This kid is garbage. To the NFL: garbage in - garbage out.
"With Vick in there, they would have easily beat the Trojans......"
Oh here we go again, the mindless bitter clown from the January 4 title game thread fires off another baseless, stupid post. Those 34 straight wins must have really been tough for you to take, given how many ridiculously critical comments you continue to direct at the tremendous program that USC has resurrected over the past 4-5 years. My advice to both you and Marcus Vick: Grow up.
You're not a nice person, are you? Every time a poster has said anything remotely negative about your precious Trojans and the Pac 10; or has even the slightest difference of opinion about college football than you, you rip into them, spewing ad hominem attacks and insults.
Well I'm a better person than that. I wish you and your family a happy and joyful New Year, and hope everything goes well for you. Dominus vobiscum.
Bartender, I apologize for the harshness of my response to you yesterday, and I appreciate your comments. But for the last couple years, I have watched the posts on this site continually denigrate USC, their streak, their championships, the league they play in, and on and on, and I decided this year that I had had enough, and was going to respond.
USC's program had been drifting into mediocrity for better than a decade when Pete Carroll took over five years ago. What he has done is incredible, and he has done it with class, positive energy and innovation. Texas' Mack Brown openly and repeatedly admits that he has gone to school on Carroll's approach and in the past two years has changed his own, to the Texas program's benefit.
In their last 49 games, USC has a triple overtime 3-point loss at Cal, and a last second 3-point loss to Texas this past week. Before the Cal game loss three seasons ago, their most recent previous loss was a one-point overtime loss at Washington State. So when you write that Virginia Tech would have EASILY defeated USC if only the brilliant Marcus Vick wasn't in his usual jailbird mode, that, like much of the criticism USC takes, is absurd. No one has 'easily' beaten these guys since Carroll showed up five years ago. And if anybody could/would have done so over that stretch, it certainly wasn't going to be Marcus Vick, with his track record. If you want to focus on 'overrated', you might start there.
Hope you had a Happy New Year and that 2006 is a good year for you.
I apologize as well, as I have let my intense dislike for the AP Poll somewhat cloud my judgement in making posts here. Just when I had hoped their influence had slipped a little, they made USC their champion in 2003, giving them a new legion of fans.
In basketball, we have the NCAA tourney at the end of the year. In baseball, we have qualifiers and the College World Series. In hockey, they have 16 teams qualify and have the Frozen Four compete each year. So in each, we have a clear National Champion. It is settled on the court, on the diamond, and on the ice. In football, it is sometimes tragically settled in the newsrooms by the reporters.
And I have been somewhat jaded against USC because of posts by some of their fans on these boards and others. I'd like to think Auburn and Utah deserve some credit for 2004 and LSU for 2003, but like Arizona State (12-0) in 1975 and Southern Cal (12-1) in 1978, they had equal or better records than the AP-proclaimed "National Champs" and rarely got the recognition they deserve.
USC definitely is a great team and they will go down as one of the greats. But we desperately need a playoff system. As for Vick, he's athletic, but overrated. I hope my Chiefs don't take him. And I am glad NCAA football is over; until August - only 7 months away! Peace.
Peace to you as well, and I agree with all your points on the other sports and the AP. And the lack of a playoff not only screws the other undefeated teams in a given year, but in every other sport, you can have an 'off day' or a bad game, and still end up winning a title by proving it in the playoffs. But in college football, one bad day generally removes you from the chase, which is unfortunate, especially today when there is so much balance throughout the country.
Good luck with your Chiefs. And with regard to Vick, I think there will be some healthy skepticism surrounding his situation for most clubs in the NFL. We'll see. Take care.
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