Posted on 01/03/2006 7:36:59 PM PST by lqclamar
There is currently a heated debate at the Wikipedia article on Free Republic about a proposed new section that some editors there want to include.
See: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Free_Republic#Free_Republic_Action_Alert_vs._Wikipedia
A version proposed by some editors wants to add a new section that describes efforts by members of FR to edit wikipedia. This is in response to a thread last week that pointed out liberal bias on several major Wikipedia articles such as George W. Bush and Abortion. In response to that post some liberal wikipedia administrators posted a "notice" on the Bush page and others warning their own that freepers may be trying to undo the leftist bias in the articles ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:George_W._Bush#Free_Republic_.22Action_Alert.22)
Anyone who is interested please take a look at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Free_Republic#Free_Republic_Action_Alert_vs._Wikipedia
It's TOO much information; like CYA information, IMO.
We also have to get past the fact that the Wikipedia sysops are predominantly liberal. Right now many of the sysops use their powers to enforce liberal bias in the articles. When a conservative editor changes too much the libs there bring in an allied administrator to revert them and "protect" the page from any edits. Many of the administrators are DUmmies and more are avowed liberals. There are even a few marxists with giant pictures of Che on their profile pages.
I haven't heard about the ideology of weikepedia (sp), but if what you say is true, keep up the good work.
Make that several disgruntled kooks - and many of them are Wikipedia sysops. Just look at the list of recent editors to the FR article. Half of them are administrators who guard and control every aspect of the article to the way they see fit.
Recent edits over the last week to wikipedia's FR article include the following sysops: (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:List_of_administrators)
Rhobite - administrator
Antandrus - administrator
CesarB - administrator
Will_Beback - administrator
And that's just the last week. Look at the edit history of the FR article and you will find that it is tightly controlled by these and dozens of other administrators (http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Free_Republic&limit=500&action=history), many of whom have far left political leanings and an anti-FR agenda.
From http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Will_Beback
Will_Beback is a new name being used by Willmcw - a pro-homosexual administrator who guards the NAMBLA article and uses it to promote homosexual politics and downplay their promotion of pederasty (see http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1549132/posts?page=44#44)
Now this wacko is editing the FR article, as are dozens of other liberal nuts just like him.
That's good advice. It looks like a lot of this is "I believe this and they believe that." That sort of thing goes on forever. But if you really know about a topic it carries a lot more weight.
If Wikipedia really is supervised by high school students they're in big trouble. At some point management will wake up and get professional or someone else will scoop away their market.
Almost every socialist, Communist and even generic left-wing Democrat nesting on the Protest Warrior forums will use wikipedia entries in order to buttress their fallacious points about some aspect of American society or foreign policy.
Regardless of how inaccurate or unreliable its sources are-and despite the alleged quality of the science-related content on that website, I can assert with some degree of certainty that its political screeds are worse than useless-they will still be used by clueless liberals in order to illustrate whatever specious point they are arguing at the moment.
Personally, I think that going tit-for-tat with these people is akin to arguing with Creationists, Trotskyites, Salafi Muslims, or some other group of throughly indoctrinated fanatics-who will not be persuaded of their errors even by the most flawless logic, since their beliefs don't stem from rationality or empirical evidence to begin with-and is not very productive in the long-run.
However, highlighting the intellectual vacuity of their main source of information is a valuable exercise in and of itself.
Keep up the good work!
It is. Just look at the 10-member Arbitration Committee, which is Wikipedia's top tier of sysops aside from site owner Jimbo Wales. Half or more of them are either high school students or undergraduates in college!
The owner of Wiki World is also asking for funding help for his site right now. Looks like he could have come up with a revenue generator within his site.
I forget his screen name-which is some indecipherable series of random consonants, IIRC-but he was pimping that site repeatedly on the other thread posted by the same FReeper.
He's supposedly an administrator over there.
That would be Tznkai, who is upset with me at the moment for pointing out that several of his fellow liberal administrators use their power to promote Che-style communism, homosexual agendas, and even pederasty on Wikipedia.
He's particularly upset because I identified several articles where they do it and named names of the perpetrators, and that's the only way to really scrutinize these administrators who all think they're invulnerable and free to slander conservatives at will in their Wiki domain.
Look at posts 27 and 28 above and you will see that it is effective. One of the worst offenders over there coincidentally changed his name right after he and a couple other administrators were called out on FR for promoting liberal causes.
Keep 'em running!
:-)
-good times, G.J.P. (Jr.)
It looks like the "owner", Jim Wales, has also made a tidy bundle in the online porn business. (Not that there's anything wrong with that)
It doesn't get much more unequivocal than that.
It astounds me that Wikiphiles don't yield to any sort of evidence that contradicts their pre-existing dogma and implacable faith in this panacea they've built up.
Fred Bauder - National Lawyers Guild activist who is also one of the most powerful administrators on wikipedia. He is one of the primary sysops and arbitrators. In real life Bauder is an ex attorney by the same name who was disgracefully disbarred by the Colorado Supreme Court in 1999 for soliciting prostitutes.
El_C - big time leftist wacko who has a giant picture of his hero Che on his homepage
Jayjg - Leftist wacko and top level sysop/arbitrator. One of the rudest people on wikipedia. He's friends with pretty much every leftist admin and they call him in whenever there's a page they need "protected" or a conservative they need to ban.
SlimVirgin - Angry leftist b!tch and Queen Bee of the wikipedia administrators. She serves a similar role as Jayjg of bailing out any leftist administrator who wants to get a conservative banned.
Will Beback nee Willmcw - Homosexual activist administrator whose main purpose on wikipedia seems to be controlling all the articles on paedophilia and maintaining a pro-pederasty bias on them!
These are some sick people and every one of them has major character flaws. They also run the show at Wikipedia, and as a result everything Wikipedia says on major political issues is suspect.
1. Fred Bauder (real name: Fred Bauder) - liberal National Lawyers Guild-affiliated ex-attorney - claims to be "retired" but was in reality forcefully disbarred by the Colorado Supreme Court for soliciting prostitution (Case No. 98SA447). Age: approx mid 60's.
2. Jdforrester (real name: James David Forrester) - "Card carrying member of the liberal democrats" (UK) according to his website www.jdforrester.org. College student. Age: 22
3. JayJG - Not much is known about him outside of wikipedia. On wikipedia he edits from a far left wing point of view - very pro-PC, anti-Christian, and supportive of left wing groups and causes.
4. Theresa Knott - Prep school teacher in London.
5. Neutrality (real name: Ben) - High school student and self-described "liberal, progressive, and Democrat." Age: approx. 16-18
6. Mindspillage (real name: Kat Walsh) - Recent college graduate from Virginia. Age: approx. 25. Claims to be a libertarian
7. Morven (real name: Matthew Brown) - Computer programmer. Age: 32
8. SimonP - little known about him.
9. Dmcdevit - registered Green Party member from California. College student. Age: 18
10. Sam Korn - high school student from England, user page says he is interested in arabic language. Age: 16
11. Charles Matthews (real name: Charles Matthews) - Mathematician/programmer from UK. Approx. age: 40-50
12. Raul654 (real name: Mark Pellegrini) - college student at University of Delaware. Approx. age: 25
13. Mackensen - College student in history. Approx. age: 20-25
CONCLUSIONS:
Wikipedia's arbitration committee is heavily composed of two groups: (1) teenagers and college kids, and (2) liberal political activists.
- At least 5 members of the Wikipedia Arbitration Committee are affiliated with the far left. So much for political neutrality!
- At least 7 of the Arbitration Committee's members are 25 or younger. In other words, people with little real world experience who have never held a real job.
- At least two of the Wikipedia Arbitration Committee's members have not even graduated high school yet, and a third is a freshman in college. In other words, some of the "experts" who are writing this encyclopedia don't even have a high school diploma!
Think about what that means for a second, and remember that the Arbitration Committee is what controls the site - they are like Wikipedia's supreme court and have a FINAL SAY in any editing dispute. They're the ones that say which version of the article stays and they're the ones who get to decide if a user gets banned.
Would you trust an encyclopedia that is run by teenagers? Would you trust an encyclopedia that is run by liberal political activists?
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