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Terrorist Nukes in America

Posted on 01/02/2006 6:02:05 PM PST by TexasPatriot8

I got this from my cousin's husband over the holidays and thought I'd post it. It may be old news, but it was new to me, and sent chills up my spine, and still does. God help us if this ever happens. It literally could bring about the collapse of the United States, and at the very least, the country would never be the same again.

And while all this is going on, democrats are doing all they can to kill those 14 provisions of the Patriot Act, taking the CIA, NSA, and FBI to pre-9/11 rules where intelligence gathering applies. MADNESS!!! SHEER MADNESS!!! If this is old and everyone already seen this, please excuse. I'm new.

The search for nukes in Washington, D.C. Government monitors radiation levels at 100 Muslim mosques, homes, sites

WASHINGTON -- The U.S. government has been monitoring radiation levels at more than 100 mosques, homes, businesses and other sites in and around the nation's capital and at least five other cities since Sept. 11, 2001, providing further evidence law enforcement officials suspect terrorists have secreted nuclear or radiological weapons inside the country.

On July 11, 2005, we first reported on al-Qaida's decade-long plans to detonate nuclear devices in seven major U.S. cities simultaneously in an operation it calls "American Hiroshima."

In numerous cases, reports U.S. News, the monitoring required investigators to go on to the property under surveillance, although no search warrants or court orders were ever obtained.

The nuclear surveillance program began in early 2002 and has been run by the FBI and the Department of Energy's Nuclear Emergency Support Team, or NEST, according to the report.

The other cities monitored include Chicago, Detroit, Las Vegas, New York, and Seattle.

As reported, former FBI consultant Paul L. Williams describes how al-Qaida has already purchased some post-Soviet mini-nukes and hired Russians to help them operate them. The report was first published in Joseph Farah's G2 Bulletin, the premium, online intelligence newsletter.

Al-Qaida's prime targets for launching nuclear terrorist attacks are the nine U.S. cities with the highest Jewish populations, according to captured leaders and documents.

As first revealed last week in the G2 Bulletin, Osama bin Laden is planning what he calls an "American Hiroshima," the ultimate terrorist attack on U.S. cities, using nuclear weapons already smuggled into the country across the Mexican border along with thousands of sleeper agents.

The series of attacks is designed to kill 4 million, destroy the economy and fundamentally alter the course of history.

At least two fully assembled and operational nuclear weapons are believed to be hidden in the United States already, according to G2 Bulletin intelligence sources and an upcoming book, "The al-Qaida Connection: International Terrorism, Organized Crime and the Coming Apocalypse," by former FBI consultant Paul L. Williams.

The cities chosen as optimal targets are New York, Miami, Los Angeles, Philadelphia, Chicago, San Francisco, Las Vegas, Boston and Washington, D.C. New York and Washington top the preferred target list for al-Qaida leadership.

Osama bin Laden's goal, according to G2 Bulletin sources, is to launch one initial attack, followed by a second on another city to simulate the U.S. bombing of Hiroshima and Nagasaki. The optimal dates for the attacks are Aug. 6, the anniversary of the Hiroshima bombing, Sept. 11 and May 14, the anniversary of the re-creation of the state of Israel in 1948.

The captured terrorists and documents also suggest smaller attacks may take place on American soil before the nuclear incidents. They may include some involving automatic weapons at schools and shopping malls, but will not include any airplane hijackings. Why? Because bin Laden does not want any failed efforts to overshadow "the success of Sept. 11." There will also not be any attacks on U.S. nuclear power plants. The rationale? The nuclear power plants can act as force multipliers when the weapons of mass destruction are detonated.

Another requirement dictated from the top at al-Qaida is that the attacks take place in daylight, so that the whole world will be able to see the images of a mushroom cloud over an American city.

One of the sources for the information is Khalid Sheikh Mohammed, the chief planner of the Sept. 11 attacks, who is now in U.S. custody.

As previously reported by G2 Bulletin, al-Qaida has obtained at least 40 nuclear weapons from the former Soviet Union - including suitcase nukes, nuclear mines, artillery shells and even some missile warheads. In addition, documents captured in Afghanistan show al-Qaida had plans to assemble its own nuclear weapons with fissile material it purchased on the black market.

U.S. military sources also say there is evidence to suggest al-Qaida is paying former Russian special forces "Spetznaz" troops to assist the terrorist group in locating nuclear weapons planted in the U.S. during the Cold War. Osama bin Laden's group is also paying nuclear scientists from Russia and Pakistan to maintain its existing nuclear arsenal and assemble additional weapons with the materials it has invested hundreds of millions in procuring over a period of 10 years. Al-Qaida sources indicate they would prefer to use Russian-made weapons for symbolic reasons.

The plans for the devastating nuclear attack on the U.S. have been under development for more than a decade. It is designed as a final deadly blow to the U.S., which is seen by al-Qaida and its allies as "the Great Satan."

At least half the nuclear weapons in the al-Qaida arsenal were obtained for cash from the Chechen terrorist allies.

But the most disturbing news is that high level U.S. officials now believe at least some of those weapons have been smuggled into the U.S. for use in the near future in major cities as part of this "American Hiroshima" plan.

According to Williams, former CIA Director George Tenet informed President Bush one month after the Sept. 11, 2001, attacks that at least two suitcase nukes had reached al-Qaida operatives in the U.S.

"Each suitcase weighed between 50 and 80 kilograms (approximately 110 to 176 pounds) and contained enough fissionable plutonium and uranium to produce an explosive yield in excess of two kilotons," wrote Williams. "One suitcase bore the serial number 9999 and the Russian manufacturing date of 1988. The design of the weapons, Tenet told the president, is simple. The plutonium and uranium are kept in separate compartments that are linked to a triggering mechanism that can be activated by a clock or a call from the cell phone."

According to the author, the news sent Bush "through the roof," prompting him to order his national security team to give nuclear terrorism priority over every other threat to America.

However, it is worth noting that Bush failed to translate this policy into securing the U.S.-Mexico border through which the nuclear weapons and al-Qaida operatives are believed to have passed with the help of the MS-13 smugglers. He did, however, order the building of underground bunkers away from major metropolitan areas for use by federal government managers following an attack.

Bin Laden, according to Williams, has nearly unlimited funds to spend on his nuclear terrorism plan because he has remained in control of the Afghanistan-produced heroin industry. Poppy production has greatly increased even while U.S. troops are occupying the country, he writes. Al-Qaida has developed close relations with the Albanian Mafia, which assists in the smuggling and sale of heroin throughout Europe and the U.S.

Some of that money is used to pay off the notorious MS-13 street gang between $30,000 and $50,000 for each sleeper agent smuggled into the U.S. from Mexico. The sleepers are also provided with phony identification, most often bogus matricula consular ID cards indistinguishable from Mexico's official ID, now accepted in the U.S. to open bank accounts and obtain driver's licenses.

According to Williams' sources, thousands of al-Qaida sleeper agents have now been forward deployed into the U.S. to carry out their individual roles in the coming "American Hiroshima" plan.


TOPICS: Military/Veterans
KEYWORDS: cia; counterterrorism; homelandsecurity; nest; nukes; patriotact; radioactivematerial; spying; terrorists; waronterror
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To: rirepublican

You're welcome. Thank you for letting me know the source! :) I really apprecaite it. It was just released Christmas Eve, that's only a week old. More recent than I thought. Not "old news" at all. Thanks. :)


41 posted on 01/02/2006 7:29:26 PM PST by TexasPatriot8 (Vote Republican. A conservative America, for a better future.)
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To: oceanview
Rirepublican just posted the original World Net Daily link, that article I posted was just written on December 24th of 05, so it's barely a week old. Not weeks or months. You may have seen similar ones, but the one I posted was just a week old. So I'm not surprised I hadn't seen it before, since the past week I hadn't been on the net at all.

And like I said before, if there was a massive nuclear exchange near populated areas, it would cause hundreds of thousands of deaths in the coming years, but the testing in the 50s and 60s were in the uninhabited Pacific, and the American deserts, far from populated areas, so there were no hundreds of thousands to be effected. By the time the radiation from one low yield explosion every few months got to a large population center, if it did, it would have dispersed to the point of being non-lethal as it moves on. As I said before, I'm talking about a large exchange of several, ten or more even, deliberately detonated in population centers which would kill many in the blast, and then kill more in the populated areas near the blast, as the radiation sweeps through the area with the prevailing winds. I don't know why you're wanting to argue with me on this. I'm not saying anything controversial or unscientific. This is all well established science, and frankly, much "older" than you thought this article was. I have nothing to gain from being right on this, I wish that wasn't how it was. But it is.

42 posted on 01/02/2006 7:36:08 PM PST by TexasPatriot8 (Vote Republican. A conservative America, for a better future.)
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To: TexasPatriot8

that is only the release of the story about the "sniffing" - the actual monitoring occured starting after 9-11.


43 posted on 01/02/2006 7:38:01 PM PST by oceanview
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To: TexasPatriot8

and the other stuff in the article about OBLs nuclear plan - is just repackaging of the old claims into this article about the sniffing of the Muslim sites.


44 posted on 01/02/2006 7:43:36 PM PST by oceanview
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To: sionnsar
If they take out Seattle, Washington will become a red state.

Only if they hurry. East King County seems to be getting bluer by the week.

45 posted on 01/02/2006 7:48:30 PM PST by PeoplesRepublicOfWashington (How long do we have to pretend that the vast majority of Democrats are patriots?)
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To: oceanview

I never claimed anything to the contrary. I simply stated that it was a scary prospect, and I posted it for those who like me had not read that specific article. As for the radiation after effects, I can't be more clear than in my past couple posts. That pretty much says it all, and that is how it works. Have a good week. Good night.


46 posted on 01/02/2006 7:49:46 PM PST by TexasPatriot8 (Vote Republican. A conservative America, for a better future.)
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To: TexasPatriot8
Its a World Net Daily article from this past summer. They did a whole series...How much was true, how much was scare-mongering? How much was headline attention?

welcome aboard texaspatriot8

47 posted on 01/02/2006 8:15:10 PM PST by abigkahuna (Step on up folks and see the "Strange Thing"--only a thin dollar, babies free!)
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To: TexasPatriot8
On July 11, 2005, we first reported on al-Qaida's decade-long plans to detonate nuclear devices in seven major U.S. cities simultaneously in an operation it calls "American Hiroshima."

In numerous cases, reports U.S. News, the monitoring required investigators to go on to the property under surveillance, although no search warrants or court orders were ever obtained.

It appears US News is your source, right?

48 posted on 01/02/2006 8:33:54 PM PST by Pan_Yans Wife ("Death is better, a milder fate than tyranny. "--Aeschylus)
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To: TexasPatriot8

You sure get around newbie; from brokeback mountain to the SHEER MADNESS!!!! of nukes. In the words of Dan Rather "Courage" or was it "What's the Frequency Kenneth"? or whatever. Nice tag line, and the phrasing remind me of a certain Starship Trooper film. Interesting.


49 posted on 01/02/2006 8:45:02 PM PST by ricks_place (Vote Republican. A conservative America, for a better future)
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To: Cvengr


50 posted on 01/02/2006 10:12:29 PM PST by twidle
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To: TexasPatriot8
Had you? And, I said I was new, so if it was old, I didn't know. That's why I said it. :)

You're cool. Some here like to impress everyone (and themselves) with their time here. They get a rise out of ridiculing people if they are relatively new here. Ignore them.

Your news is not particularly new, but it is very much worth seeing again. It is a very disturbing story.

51 posted on 01/02/2006 10:28:02 PM PST by beyond the sea ("If someone is callin' you from Al Queda, we want to know why.")
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To: TexasPatriot8

That picture was earlier probably.


52 posted on 01/02/2006 10:28:56 PM PST by beyond the sea ("If someone is callin' you from Al Queda, we want to know why.")
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To: TexasPatriot8
I was posting it because the possibility of the content disturbed me and I had yet to read something that was so specific and detailed with an actual intelligence source cited. That was the main reason I posted it because the possibility of something that specific happening is really scary. So, given that, maybe you could back off a little please? Thanks. I only joined a bit ago over Christmas, and sure wasn't posting this to get chewed on because I didn't dot my I's or cross my T's in the first thread I made. :) You likely didn't know what all everyone had ever talked about on here back when you joined, and you probably wouldn't have liked someone fussing at you like you're doing, right?

You're right, as I said before. Some, such as the one you are speaking to, have nothing better to do than harass new posters.. It's one of the few negatives here. Ignore those taunts.

;-)

53 posted on 01/02/2006 10:36:36 PM PST by beyond the sea ("If someone is callin' you from Al Queda, we want to know why.")
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To: Cvengr; TexasPatriot8
then IMHO, we need an intelligence gathering capacity, perhaps amongst all powers and authorities to track those with such power and hold them accountable

Good idea, but good luck.

Tell the Democrats. Maybe John Kerry can work something out with France and all those world leaders who love him.

;-)

;-)

54 posted on 01/02/2006 10:39:31 PM PST by beyond the sea ("If someone is callin' you from Al Queda, we want to know why.")
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To: TexasPatriot8
I fully expect that sometime in the next 10 to 20 years, there will be a nuclear weapon detonated in an American city. With the fanatical nature of the terrorists, and nuclear technology being nearly as widespread today as the internal combustion engine was 80 years ago, it seems to be a question of when, not if.

Yes, but I'd say five years is closer to reality.

55 posted on 01/02/2006 10:41:46 PM PST by beyond the sea ("If someone is callin' you from Al Queda, we want to know why.")
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To: melt

They might do that. Mecca has been a terrorist target--substantial shootouts now and then, just like in other Saudi cities.


56 posted on 01/03/2006 11:02:35 AM PST by RightWhale (pas de lieu, Rhone que nous)
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To: abigkahuna
Hello, thanks for the welcome. :)

Unfortunately, I believe most of it is true. There is no upside to scare mongoring, since time would prove it wrong and bring consequence for those making things up. But there seems to be a concerted effort by the left to downplay the danger of islamo-fascist terrorists. Just four short years after 9-11 that's staggering.

The reality is that to the terrorist muslims, and in the minds of many muslims who are not terrorists, this is a war between islam and the rest of the world. The reality is also that islam has been fighting this war for 1,400 years. And the west has refused to engage for hundreds of years. A couple political science friends of mine talk about that frequently. When you look on a map at how far islam has spread, and how depraved and impoverished those nations on Earth are, it's a scary thing. That's the reality that too many Americans still don't understand. This is a war against freedom and democratic western society, and a scary number of about 150 million Americans still oppose it to this day. Sad and scary.

57 posted on 01/08/2006 3:02:51 PM PST by TexasPatriot8 (Vote Republican. A conservative America, for a better future.)
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To: Pan_Yans Wife

Hello. The exact article I posted was World Net Daily. Did U.S. News and World Report do a similar story recently? If so, I'd love to see if you have a link to it. The world Net Daily article was really well written and well reasoned. Thanks.


58 posted on 01/08/2006 3:03:59 PM PST by TexasPatriot8 (Vote Republican. A conservative America, for a better future.)
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To: ricks_place
Hi. When I was on last week that thread happened to catch my eye and I had just been to the Yahoo! movies site seeing how well Narnia was doing and noticed how horribly brokeback mountain was doing. What a joke.

Glad you like my tag line. You must like it to use it yourself. Cool. :) is it like a line in Starship Troopers? I can't recall. NOW I'm going to have to watch it to see if I can notice it. All your fault. :) Heehee.

59 posted on 01/08/2006 3:08:12 PM PST by TexasPatriot8 (Vote Republican. A conservative America, for a better future.)
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To: TexasPatriot8
"Each suitcase weighed between 50 and 80 kilograms (approximately 110 to 176 pounds) and contained enough fissionable plutonium and uranium to produce an explosive yield in excess of two kilotons,"

The yield may be close, but at only 50 – 80 kilos there wouldn’t be much shielding. They would be easy to find.
60 posted on 01/08/2006 3:18:56 PM PST by R. Scott (Humanity i love you because when you're hard up you pawn your Intelligence to buy a drink.)
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