Here is Ed's Comments (slightly edited) on McCarthy and Nixon:
#6: Richard Nixon
The only president to resign his office in disgrace, although perhaps not the only president who should have done so. Nixon, like his contemporaries Hoover and McCarthy, presented such a classically tragic figure for the good that he tried to do. In the end, the tremendous damage he did eclipsed all of that, including the famous Opening of Red China. He abused his power for his own sake, using the FBI and the CIA to attack his enemies, real and imagined. His abuses, in fact, color our ability to defend the nation to this day. His legacy lives on in the Gorelick Wall, in the FISA warrant issue, in special prosecutors like Patrick Fitzgerald; Nixon brought a plague onto the body politic that will last for decades to come. Although he later rehabilitated himself somewhat, the damage he did in his presidency may never really end.
#7: Joe McCarthy
Tail-gunner Joe had all of the same qualities of Greek tragedy as Hoover, but on a much shorter time scale. Originally seeking to root out the Communists from the US government – which the Verona intercepts would later prove was a very real threat – McCarthy singlehandedly destroyed the credibility of the anti-Communist effort through demagoguery, lies, and character assassination. McCarthy embodied the result of what happens when people use the ends to justify all means. In the end, his behavior on television shocked the nation and freed the Senate to finally censure him, but more tragically than that, it led an entire generation to dismiss Communist infiltration as a threat to the security of the nation. He has long been Hollywood’s bete noir, although most of the so-called blacklisting came from the efforts of the House Un-American Activities Committee, not the Senate. (McCarthy’s focus was on the federal bureaucracy and the Army, not Hollywood.)
My list would be different, and would include FDR, Woodrow Wilson, Alger Hiss, LBJ, and Huey Long.
Kind of a stupid list.
Not sure that I agree with anyone on his list except John Walker.
Where's Tookie? The dude founded the Crips; how many people have been killed as a result of that?
I have some: Benjamin Franklin, Jefferson Davis, the Rosenbergs, Ted Hall, Alger Hiss, John Wilkes Booth, Lee Harvery Oswald, Ted Bundy, John Wayne Gacy, Jimmy Carter, Frank Church, Ramsey Clark, John Walker Lindh, etc...
One would do well to see what NBF's contemporaries had to say about the man, as well as blacks that knew him said about him.
This fellow Ed is no conservative. He lists McCarthy and Nixon as two of his worst Americans. I think Ed is a ill informed liberal left Democrat from what I see.
If he thinks Hoover is the "worst" american, than he knows little about history.
Harry reid, Nancy pelosi, John Murtha, John Kerry, Howard Dean, The Clinotns and Algore should be on the list.
McCarthy and the Verona intercepts -- has he got the right McCarthy? (no pun intended)
Which Verona?
Verona, Illinois
Verona, Maine
Verona Township, Michigan
Verona Township, Minnesota
Verona, Mississippi
Verona, Missouri
Verona, New Jersey
Verona Township, New Jersey
Verona, New York
Verona, North Dakota
Verona, Ohio
Verona, Pennsylvania
Verona, Virginia
Verona, Wisconsin
Verona (town), Wisconsin
McCarthy destroyed the credibility of the anti-Communist effort
More than fifty years later you tell me! Why were tens of millions of us wasting our time back then? Wow! If we had only known that we'd been destroyed already we could of relaxed a little bit.
Hoover, McCarthy, Nixon? To make the modern list you have to be well known as anti-Communist? To populate the list you consult left wing agitation exclusively? You judge how telegenic they were? How often they did not smile? What?
Hoover's not even close! Selling secret ICBM guidance technology to the Red Chinese in return for campaign contributions is a despicable act of treason and puts BJ Clinton all alone at the top!
Conseratives embrace those people?
And for those who still think that J. Edgar Hoover did a "good job" of protecting America, I'd point out that the Hoover's FBI seldom if ever caught any Soviet on Nazi spies of saboteurs on their own, although they always took credit. And Hoover, while more than willing to devote major resources to capturing common street thugs like Dillenger (and turning them into folk heros in the process) avoided going after big time organized crime like the plague, even to the point of insisting the Mafia didn't exist. He was afraid that he wouldn't be able to "win" going after the mob and he didn't want to look bad in failure. Hoover's only talent was in promoting and protecting the power and position of J. Edgar Hoover.
Carter's got to be 3rd or 4th. I can't see how he's only 10th. This whole Islamo-Fascist War thing is almost entirely his fault. (not to mention 18 % inflation and mortgage rates, etc., Afghanistan invasion and etc., in only 4 years !!))
Ted Kennedy should be on that list.
Of course, the "worst" status has to take into account the level of power and influence wielded...Posted by joppa @ 7/12/04, 07:37 PMthe FreeRepublic website is encourging right wing extremists to stage a terrorist attack just before the elections so that Bush can declare marshall law and stop the elections. When I went back to copy and save the material they has already removed it from their website.
We all know the goal of your Neoconservatives is to achieve world domination through pre-emptive strikes.
What these fools dont realize that they are placing America on the chopping block for all of your Muslim world to execute us.
Ed's explanation:
http://www.captainsquartersblog.com/mt/archives/006027.php
"For my consideration, I decided that the status of American had to be part of their 'crimes'. In other words, simply picking someone like Ted Bundy or Charles Manson would be too easy. Their evil, though real and in most cases worse than what you'll read on this list, doesn't have to do with their innate American heritage. I went looking for the people who sinned against America itself, or the ideal of America. Otherwise, we'd just be looking at body counts."
Dissent from another 'blog Ed links to:
http://johnnorrisbrown.com/blog/2005/12/americas-bottom-ten.htm
Ping?
From http://www.captainsquartersblog.com/mt/archives/006027.php
posted above explaining the list of ten worst,
I went looking for the people who sinned against America itself, or the ideal of America.
Look at what is going on today with "wire tapping."
Does anyone really believe that the Rat agitators are shocked and dismayed by "wire tapping?"
Does anyone really believe that the Rat agitators really believe that their administrations never did it?
How can anyone really believe that the Nixon administration was the first to bug opponents, cover up, have an "enemies lsit," and attempt to use government agencies in their efforts?
LBJ bugged Goldwater. LBJ did not cover up. He did NOT have to. The MSM agitators did it for him, they ignored it.
Was LBJ the first? NO!
Does anyone really believe that Rat agitators are exposing the sins against the ideal of America?
If so, I've got a bridge for sale near Sacramento. It's needed right now but you can have it next Spring, cheap.
How do you keep from voting Rat if you really, really believe them?