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To: Darkwolf377

>> "10 more than three times"? I was born at night, but not last night <<

Do the math.

>> Dude, you were wrong--you're just trying to make it look like you weren't. Either way, you're STILL wrong--the movie made MORE this Friday than last. <<

Do they celebrate Christmas on your planet? They do on my planet, where $745,000 is less than $765,000.

>> it's down 2% PER THEATER. <<

Um, $3,433 is a LOT less than $38,309. Not just 2% less. That 2% is not per theater; it's 2% overall.

>> It's in @200 theaters--that's not a theater in every market, unless you're going to argue there are only 4 markets per state. <<

No, it's not in every market; it's in 217 theaters in about 100 markets. I guess you don't realize what a market is. There are 190 "markets" in the US, excluding rural areas, which comprise 85% of the population.

>> What's interesting is that you've taken on a very insulting tone <<

Please re-read your comments and consider why I've poicked up an "insulting" tone.

>> So Saturday (yesterday) would be part of THIS week, just as you say Sunday (today) is part of THIS week. And...? <<

Yes. Hollywood measures weeks from Friday to Thursday.

>> You cut out--I'm sure completely by accident--BOTH mentions that movies commonly drop slightly when they go wide. You also conveniently ignore that you said BBM dropped 70%--dropping $20k from $765k is 70%? On what planet? <<

Do you have any understanding of the meaning of "per?" It dropped a TOTAL of $20,000, as it expanded to ten more than three times as many theaters. THat means the PER THEATER gross dropped 70%.


25 posted on 12/25/2005 12:40:20 PM PST by dangus
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To: Darkwolf377; CaptainK; softwarecreator

Mystery of Conflicting Budgets Solved:

Box Office Mojo's "Production" budgets apparently include cost of shooting the film, and reproducing the film onto various prints.

The filming costs for Narnia were $150 million. Softwarecreator, that's what you and I had seen published elsewhere as costs for Narnia. Printing costs for the full release for Narnia's 3800 copies were $30 million,brigning the total production budget up to $180 million.

Figures for Brokeback Mountain are a little more complicated. The film cost $13 million to stage. Apparently, the $30 million total cost was based on a traditionally moderately wide release (I guess around 2,000 theaters?). Then the producers decided to release it more narrowly than originally planned, hence the $18 million budget. The $15 million budget currently being cited is based on the couple-hundred print release the film is currently in. I guess Box Office Mojo's $14 million is still based on the previous 69-theater release? BUt if the movie is going to come close to profitability, it will need the release that would cost $18 million.

So to compare Narnia to Brokeback, it'd make sense to compare either $180 million to $18 million, or $150 million to $13 million. For Narnia to become profitable, it would need worldwide grosses of about $420 million. Again, it's more complicated with Brokeback Mountain. Presuming is onternational release schedule would be a similar receipt:print ratio that is planned for America, and that the American release is about 400 films, Brokeback would need about $60 million to profit. OTOH, if it stays to a narrower American release similar of about 200 theaters, it could make a profit of $36 million.

The profitability figures rules-of-thumb do not include pay-TV contracts, or sales of DVDs. (Oddly, I believe they do include post-release DVD rentals, but I'm not sure if that word means what would commonly be presumed.)


27 posted on 12/26/2005 6:59:06 AM PST by dangus
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