Posted on 12/14/2005 2:10:55 PM PST by Cinnamon Girl
Michael says Paula Zahn found a gay cowboy to interview for her show and that there's a gay rodeo league or something.
He says the movie ads hide the fact that the film is anti-marriage. It breaks up two marriages with kids and yet is described as "a wonderful love story."
Well I apologize for the general terms, but to specify, I do mean all the countless commenters on freerepublic who have made "gay jokes" as responses to any news about this film, not limited to the comments in this particular thread. I'm sure there are plenty of people who don't care for the film, and they don't have to. But I'm calling out the people who are just being jerks by adding gay insult upon insult to these threads -- a few of course would pass me by, but all this constant overreaction to the film is ridiculous.
I actually have gay friends who are good people overall, and I defend their existence if not necessarily their sexual behaviors.
Except your wrong about Million Dollar Baby, the movie was about the relationship between the Eastwood and Swank characters. That is what the trailer showed and that is what you got. Anyone who thought they were getting something like Rocky instead of something more like Raging Bull wasn't paying very close attention. Everything else was people with a chip on their shoulder looking for something to get offended at.
LOL!
I'm not sure if my premise was clear to you... I was saying how this film is not a simple promotion of homosexuality or breaking up families. It certainly IS about homosexuality. (I never said it wasn't!) But it's explaining the actual problem homosexuals face-- feeling sexual and emotional attraction to their own sex -- and yet society around them does nothing but scare them into not dealing with it in any sort of healthy way. You seriously have to read the story or know the film. In my mind, the implications are great for true Christians who actually try to *improve* the lives of people in the world. To understand gays better certainly doesn't mean you're going to condone evil in everyone else.
And you're right, it is a movie. Unfortunately many others in these threads are using the movie as some excuse to just randomly bash gay people. There's not even any explanation other than "God says they're evil," -- you might as well start calling blind and deaf people evil, too.
Yes, but the film doesn't advocate fathers leaving their children and wives. Infidelity clearly caused pain in the lives of EVERY character in this film, for many reasons, and it certainly is NOT saying infidelity is good or happy.
Then there's the other issue: that the infidelity was caused by the two gay men's tragic lives of being homosexual and in love with each other in an environment that never lets them understand what's happened to them. The simple and unfair response by too many is to say, "oh, they're just evil and gross, they should just stay married to their wives," -- as if they could do that so easily.
I think discussion about the film without actually seeing it is just... dumb. Or you can at least read the story.
Thank you-- I really don't want to seem like I'm *promoting* gayness, whatever that means. I just want to promote random insults without dealing with the actual issues.
oops, that should be: I want to promote NOT saying random insults...
The sodomite movement has a fundamentally adversarial relationship with traditional Christianity. Since the Bible will always define it as "abomination" gays, whererever they go, be it in the Episcopal Church, Catholic seminaries, Jesuits, Hollywood, will always use their position to wage a propaganda war against traditional Christianity. As extreme cultural liberals with an agenda of moral subversion they can do no other.
There is nothing to be gained from being "open minded" about it. We know what gays want and that is to make America as pagan and godless and degenerate as Europe.
The sodomite lifestyle is the continuation into our own time of late 70's coke spoon disco depravity. It is a culture of barebacking, anonymous sex in toilets, bug chasing, bathhouses, "bottoms", crystal meth.... Now, we have a film that is trying to "poitierize" this lifestyle and that is a lie that cannot be tolerated.
The way I saw the movie being promoted was like a chick Rocky, not an "assisted suicide" advocacy film.
I don't doubt that some people are condition to wind up "gay" or wind up gay as a result of some abuse, sexual or otherwise, or some other trauma suffered when they were younger. But I know I am in the minority on FR when I say that probably most gay people are just born that way. Pretty sorry state of affairs to be in if you ask me, and thank God I like chicks. :-)
"Michael Medved reminded us today that last year they pulled the same stunt with "Million Dollar Baby" by not going anywhere near the real subject of the film, knowing that a lot of people would be turned off by it."
It was a good film ($1,000,000 Baby). The end was a surprise. I can deal with the issue. I went because of Eastwood. He is a first rate director.
I'm glad there is no "surprise" with Brokeback. Just not interested, so I will not go.
But I went to Capote, knowing full well the man was a homosexual. He was also a well known writer and public figure for years.
The acting was great, but the story was, quite naturally, very dark.
The "they were born that way argument" relies upon the controversial issue of biological determinism, something science cannot prove either way.
It isn't the issue whether or not they were born that way. Addicts are probably born with a tendancy toward addiction, too. Does that mean we should support addiction rather than encourage a better life?
Not necessarily.
The movie's budget was a piddling $13 million. Did the actors and crew brown bag peanut butter and jelly sandwiches ? The financial loss on this movie will be tolerable from Hollywood standards.
The core problem is that this film is demanding that we view the act of sodomite sex as beautiful and romantic. Heterosexual males find it disgusting. That is why in opportunistic homosexual relationships among normally heterosexual males (prison, British public school, ships at sea) the stronger male penetrates the weaker male but is never penetrated himself.
You're mean. Hee Hee.
If the gorilla were gay, Kong would sweep the academy awards.
And given that, I think it's unrealistic that they would have gone for each other.
It wasn't an assisted suicide advocacy film in any way. And it didn't look like a chick Rocky. As I said it was way more of a Raging Bull type film. There were definitely going to be some heavy issues dealt with. Clint Eastwood's involvement was a dead giveaway to that.
when you develop some reading comprehension you'll get it.
I planned to post a review of "Bareback Mountain," . . . er, "Brokeback Mountain," the gay cowboy romance movie, today. Only I can't.
I went to the screening, last night, only to be turned away despite reservations. Why? Gay activists, gay non-activists, and other sundry gays had been camping out at the theater all day--for hours to see this movie. And they took my seat. This movie is apparently the Xbox 360-esque craze of the gay community, this season.
Mp>So, sorry, no review for now. Not that you care much for hearing about a gay cowboy romance. Do you? FYI, this is just one of several gay-centric or tranny movies, this month. It's just a tad disproportionate compared to straight movies. No wonder box office receipts in 2005 are down.
Maybe that has something to do with the disappearance of masculine, straight cowboys--and masculine, straight men--from the silver screen.
Despite what Hollywood would have you believe, gays are NOT in the closet. They're visible across the face of the culture. Its heterosexuals and straight people that are wanting for attention these days - especially the happily married kind.
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