KILLED FOR A CIGARETTE [NYC]

NY Post ^ | December 3, 2005 | ERIKA MARTINEZ, SARAH GARLAND and RICH CALDER

[spokeshave]

"Well, you know, young folk . . .

Maybe asking for "a smoke"

is a gay pick up . .

In UK they "light up a fag"

[Mr. Keys]

No doubt. He might even be the poster boy for the anti- smokers crowd.

[Sir Francis Dashwood]

This could all have been prevented if they would just ban smoking and guns in New York City.

And if they would just end the brownshirt war on drugs, that guy could have been happily smoking marijuana or crack instead...

(/sarcasm)

Sorry, I had to make the (/sarcasm) big enough for the blurry eyed drug advocates in case they run crying to the Admin Moderator...

[Big Guy and Rusty 99]

. . . there has to be an invisible sun
it gives its heat to everyone . . .

[babydoll22]

If New York allowed smoking in bars, this would never have happened. Bring back Rudy.

[dsc]

"'A murder committed in the course of a felony' makes it sound as if the murder ISN'T the felony."

Right. What these 2nd degree murder laws usually do is this:

Two guys get guns and go down to rob a store. They don't intend to kill anybody, but while one of them gets careless and discharges a round, killing the clerk.

It can be a total accident, but both the robbers are guilty of capital murder because the killing happened in the course of a felony: armed robbery. They didn't mean to kill anybody, but if they hadn't set out to commit an armed robbery, nobody would have died.

In the cigarette shooting, if the killing happened in the course of another felony, and there's probably something felonious about popping off rounds on a city street, Singh can argue all he wants that he didn't intend to kill anybody, and it won't help him a bit.

He can still be convicted of capital murder and executed, even without premeditation.

[agooga]

"Well, you know, young folk . . .
Maybe asking for "a smoke"
is a gay pick up . . ."

From Ween's Mr. Richard Smoker:


"mister richard smoker
you're a velvet coker
Bruce and Geoff will
pick you up at ten
goin' out
dancin' in the city
friday night
gotta look pretty
tonight we'll tango in the street
you eat
dog meat"

You might be on to something there.

[kittymyrib]

I'd like to check the immigration status of this entire bunch of gangstas. It appears that NYC's gun laws are not being followed by some of its much-celebrated diverse population.

[MamaTexan]

Hell, it was a long time ago and the guy DID say he was sorry.

UGH!

I never will understand people who think words (or even actions) can replace the irreplaceable.

[dsc]

"How can one shoot a gun 6 or 7 times WITHOUT the intent to hit them?"

Oh, I suppose if one is an inebriated idiot, one might be intending only to frighten. Doesn't matter, though; a killing in the commission of a felony is murder.

"How can one shoot a gun 6 or 7 time and only hit the target only once?"

You have fired a pistol, right? It's a lot harder than most people think, especially in a moving vehicle, at night, possibly with a load on.

"How is it that you can pull a gun on someone without the premeditation, all be it a few seconds, of killing them?"

I'm not a lawyer, but I think the standard for premeditation is a bit higher than that. And, as I noted above, there's no accounting for what an inebriated idiot might do.

[billhilly]

But he didn't know that he hit him. Don't you understand?

[Charles Henrickson]

Devendra Singh, 26, allegedly gunned down. . . .

Send him to Singh-Singh.

[MamaTexan]

They didn't mean to kill anybody, but if they hadn't set out to commit an armed robbery, nobody would have died.

So it's basically causing a death during an act of personal stupidity.

Like 'vehicular homicide' if someone purposely travels the wrong way on an interstate and causes an *accident*.

[albee]

"Devendra Singh

Any relation to Ofdeeyi Singh?"

LOL!!!

[dsc]

"So it's basically causing a death during an act of personal stupidity."

Well, during a felony. If what you're doing is stupid without being a felony, then other laws apply.

"Like 'vehicular homicide' if someone purposely travels the wrong way on an interstate and causes an *accident*."

Similar in philosophy, I think. You might not have intended to kill anyone, but you did intend to commit this other crime, and if you hadn't done that nobody would have died.

[Mr. Jeeves]

An alleged Bloods gang member...Devendra Singh

What? Have the Bloods embraced affirmative action to the point they are admitting Sikh members?

[Sally'sConcerns]

So, if he is suspected in one murder and is believed to have been plotting a second, why, in God's name, was he out on the street instead of behind bars?

I don't get it.

I'm sure he was a fine upstanding citizen who was merely a suspect in both of those crimes. After all, he may be a suspect but he hadn't actually been charged from what the article says.

Of course the poor upstanding citizen was again himself a victim in the latest incident. We all know how those eeevil guns can leap into someone's hand, start indiscriminately firing and end up by a fluke, hitting and killing someone. Besides, how dare anyone ask for a cigarette with the intent of committing the crime of smoking!
Need I add a /sarc?

[Vision]

An alleged Bloods gang member — already a suspect in the death of his girlfriend and a plot to kill his stepfather — was charged yesterday with killing a Queens man over a cigarette

"Free Tookie, Free Tookie" says Hollywood

[YOUGOTIT]

The question is: Why was he walking the streets? Why was he not in jail without bond?

[redheadtoo]

The wild shooting occurred hours after Varma, 27, innocently asked Singh for a cigarette, which police sources said made Singh feel "disrespected."

This sort of extreme sensitivity to perceived insults is usually caused by growing up in female-dominated, welfare families. If we checked out Singh's background I am willing to bet that he had no father. He was raised on welfare. His mother had a long sting of men who were hopping in and out of her bed. She was very vocal in her disrespect for them and, while growing up, he never saw a man who sheltered and provided for his family.

With this sort of background a young male never learns to be a man. In fact he is barely civilized. Never seeing a proper way to express his masculinity he turns to the extremes of violence to feel like a man.