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New Linux study suggests fundamental Microsoft credibility problems
Linux Watch ^ | 11/17/2005 | Steven J. Vaughan-Nichols

Posted on 11/23/2005 4:35:13 AM PST by StoneGiant

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To: N3WBI3

You're welcome to try to disprove anything I said, but you'd be better off trying to finally mount some sort of defense of your original claims. So far, you've accomplished neither, LMAO.


81 posted on 11/23/2005 1:15:43 PM PST by Golden Eagle
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To: Golden Eagle
What is to disprove, you made a claim that there were several hundred kernels developers, and now you say you don't really know... Its called lying and its what you accuse others of doing..

BTW watch those split infinitives it should be 'to mount finally'..

82 posted on 11/23/2005 1:19:03 PM PST by N3WBI3 (If SCO wants to go fishing they should buy a permit and find a lake like the rest of us..)
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To: N3WBI3
several hundred kernels

Talk about spelling mistakes, doesn't even make sense. Bottom line Red Hat and IBM are giving their work away for free to China, and ChinaThreat needed to know that. I informed him and you wanted to claim Red Hat doesn't significantly contribute to Linux which is bunk, they have hundreds of programmers working on it including more contributions to the kernel than anyone. The rest is you just wasting everyone's time and this site's bandwidth with your whines that you've been exposed, again, like on most every thread.

If you think you could ever grow up past your lunix stooge phase, you'd answer up on the question of how these 1K "red hat" guys should be allowed to threaten the hundreds of thousands of Windows and Unix jobs out there.

We all know you love your free software, and use it for everything, mindlessly glamorizing it constantly. But if everyone else did the same, and no one used anything but freeware we just shot around the world to every other dictator constantly, how in the heck is that good for US software supremacy? Obviously, it isn't, it's actually the best way to attack our supremacy, to standardize us and the world on the exact same thing.

See if you can muster up an answer for that one.

83 posted on 11/23/2005 1:36:09 PM PST by Golden Eagle
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To: Golden Eagle
I never said Redhat did not help with the Linux Kernel, I said they were handed the kernel for free initially. You however claimed that there where 'several hundred' kernel developers so please tell me where is the meat on that claim?

While no one knows for sure how many of their hundreds of programmers work specifically on the kernel,

Funny a few post back you were pretty quick to say there were 'several hundred' kernel developers... now you don't know... Where I come from thats called lying son..

84 posted on 11/23/2005 1:54:51 PM PST by N3WBI3 (If SCO wants to go fishing they should buy a permit and find a lake like the rest of us..)
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To: Golden Eagle

No, it was wrong, as was your punctuation in your rebuttal.


85 posted on 11/23/2005 2:16:36 PM PST by Unicode_Wizard
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To: Golden Eagle

Why would China pay the US for a software project started by a Finnish programmer?


86 posted on 11/23/2005 2:26:16 PM PST by Redcloak (We'll raise up our glasses against evil forces singin' "whiskey for my men and beer for my horses!")
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To: N3WBI3

Don't 'son' me punk, or call me a liar. Red Hat has hundreds of programmers, including the top Linux ones that are giving free software advancements to China and other potential threats around the world. You can ignore the fact you are wrong on this point or whine about the way you were exposed trying to cover it up, but they do, and you are, once again and as usual, wrong in defending it.


87 posted on 11/23/2005 2:38:00 PM PST by Golden Eagle
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To: Redcloak

Why would anyone in the US use a Finnish clone of US products instead of the real thing?

BTW, Sun Solaris has just been named the standard 64-bit environment for Oracle. Expect others to follow that lead.


88 posted on 11/23/2005 2:41:35 PM PST by Golden Eagle
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To: Unicode_Wizard

Proof?


89 posted on 11/23/2005 2:45:05 PM PST by Golden Eagle
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To: N3WBI3; zeugma
> We took the case off, tapped on the drive with a screwdriver and it spun up.

Wow I have *NEVER* had that work and the few times I tried it I felt like the monkey in 2000 a space Odyssey... banking something with a bone rather in a rather clumsy fashion.. Glad to hear somebody can do it.

Several somebodies. The early Seagate drives were notorious for stiction.
In many cases the problem would be aggravated by a marginal power supply. Adding a 47uf to the 5 volt lead usually helped the problem machine.

90 posted on 11/23/2005 2:59:20 PM PST by dread78645 (Sorry Mr. Franklin, We couldn't keep it.)
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To: Golden Eagle
Don't 'son' me punk, or call me a liar.

You said several hundred kernel developers, than you said 'nobody knows'...So you did not know when you made the statement... What would you call it a 'Kerry Fact'?

91 posted on 11/23/2005 3:05:05 PM PST by N3WBI3 (If SCO wants to go fishing they should buy a permit and find a lake like the rest of us..)
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To: N3WBI3

I said nobody knows the exact number. But they have contributed more to the kernel than anyone, even though you attempted to claim they didn't contribute to the kernel design at all. So go ahead and give us the number, if you think you know it, since it will only prove you are wrong anyway.


92 posted on 11/23/2005 3:15:12 PM PST by Golden Eagle
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To: Golden Eagle
GE: "Red Hat has literally hundreds of kernel devs:

GE (A time Later): "nodoby knows the exact number

So you dont know how many they have (and have yet to post anything indicating you do) and somehow youre being truthful... Glass house + stone = GE on this thread..

93 posted on 11/23/2005 3:24:18 PM PST by N3WBI3 (If SCO wants to go fishing they should buy a permit and find a lake like the rest of us..)
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To: sticker

"What to display your iBook screen on a projector? You have to have an Apple adapter"

Big deal 29 bucks or so. If you are too cheap for that then...


94 posted on 11/23/2005 3:29:44 PM PST by Sunnyflorida
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To: Golden Eagle

What US product are you talking about?


95 posted on 11/23/2005 3:31:03 PM PST by Redcloak (We'll raise up our glasses against evil forces singin' "whiskey for my men and beer for my horses!")
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To: LIConFem

Whaaa? Nuts. My performance is fine (so is my computer's). I have no problem with reliability.


96 posted on 11/23/2005 3:31:41 PM PST by Sunnyflorida
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To: zeugma
I had the same experience with SunOS a few years back. The mainframe datacenter guys finally had to take over responsibility for the servers after the project (first unix project at this west coast bank). They asked me how often we IPL. I said "IPL?" They said do you shut them down nightly or weekly and restart? I told them we shut them down if we need to add hardware (except disks which were hot-swapable). When I told them the servers had been up for months they had a cow. Too funny.

I like unix but can't beat a cheapo $1k iBook for a personal computing.
97 posted on 11/23/2005 3:36:49 PM PST by Sunnyflorida
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To: Redcloak

Any version of Unix, including the new Apple. There will soon be several on x86.

http://blogs.zdnet.com/BTL/?p=2175


98 posted on 11/23/2005 3:39:23 PM PST by Golden Eagle
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To: Golden Eagle
Do you understand the difference between "proprietary" and "non-proprietary"?
99 posted on 11/23/2005 3:43:28 PM PST by Redcloak (We'll raise up our glasses against evil forces singin' "whiskey for my men and beer for my horses!")
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To: LIConFem

At a past computer expo (COMDEX), Bill Gates reportedly compared the computer industry with the auto industry and stated "If GM had kept up with technology like the computer industry has, we would all be driving $25.00 cars that get 1,000 miles to the gallon."

In response to Bill's comments, General Motors issued a press release stating: If General Motors had developed technology like Microsoft, we would all be driving cars with the following characteristics:
For no reason whatsoever, your car would crash twice a day.
Every time they repainted the lines in the road, you would have to buy a new car.
Occasionally your car would die on the freeway for no reason. You would have to pull over to the side of the road, close all of the car windows, shut it off, restart it, and reopen the windows before you could continue. For some reason you would simply accept this.
Occasionally, executing a maneuver such as a left turn would cause your car to shut down and refuse to restart, in which case you would have to reinstall the engine.
Only one person at a time could use the car unless you bought CarPro, but then you would have to buy more seats.
Macintosh would make a car that was powered by the sun, was reliable, five times as fast and twice as easy to drive, but would only run on 85 percent of the roads.
The oil, water temperature, and alternator warning lights would all be replaced by a single "General Protection Fault” warning light.
New seats would force everyone to have the same sized butt.
The airbag system would ask, "are you SURE?" before deploying.
Occasionally, for no reason whatsoever, your car would lock you out and refuse to let you in until you simultaneously lifted the door handle, turned the key and grabbed hold of the radio antenna.
GM would require all car buyers to also purchase a deluxe set of Rand McNally Road maps (now a GM subsidiary), even though they neither need nor want them. Attempting to delete this option would immediately cause the car’s performance to diminish by 50% or more. Moreover, GM would become a target for investigation by the Justice Dept.
Every time GM introduced a new car, car buyers would have to learn to drive all over again because none of the controls would operate in the same manner as the old car. The new model would not run on the old roads
You'd have to press the "Start" button to turn the engine off.


100 posted on 11/23/2005 3:56:37 PM PST by Sunnyflorida
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