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New Linux study suggests fundamental Microsoft credibility problems
Linux Watch ^ | 11/17/2005 | Steven J. Vaughan-Nichols

Posted on 11/23/2005 4:35:13 AM PST by StoneGiant

 

Opinion: New Linux study suggests fundamental Microsoft credibility problems


Nov. 17, 2005

Another day, another lame attempt by Microsoft to show that Windows is better than Linux.

This time around, Microsoft commissioned a study to show that Windows does a better job of serving e-commerce applications than Linux.

Of course, in the study, they didn't use the same e-commerce or back-engine DBMSs.

OK, right there, without saying another word, anyone who really knows anything about benchmarking knows that the study is fundamentally flawed. You're not comparing apples to apples; you're comparing apples and oranges.

It would be a different story, if you were trying to compare the transaction speed and reliability of e-commerce packages, but that's not the case here. Microsoft was trying to prove that Windows was better than Linux.

To do this "study," Microsoft hired Security Innovations Inc.. Paul Thurrott, a Windows journalist, describes the company as "highly regarded."

I prefer to use Security Innovations's own description of its relationship with Microsoft: "Security Innovation is a certified Microsoft partner for security services. We have both the Microsoft SWI and ACE certifications as an authorized professional services provider for Microsoft technologies."

What kind of idiots does Microsoft think we are, anyway?

In the, cough, study, which compared Windows Server System and Novell Inc.'s SUSE Linux Enterprise Server (SLES), they simulated both the aforementioned e-commerce applications and an upgrade from Windows 2000 to Server 2003, and SLES 8 to SLES 9, and a year's worth of running, from July 1, 2004 to June 30, 2005.

What did Micros... oh I mean Security Innovations, find out?

Well, first, that by Microsoft's own admission the sample size of administrators was too small to provide conclusive statistical comparisons!

Is this amazing, or what? In the executive summary, Microsoft admits that they don't have real data!

So what conclusions did they reach?

They found that with Linux you could solve problems in a variety of ways, instead of one true, Microsoft way. OK, that's true enough. But, this, this is a problem?

Sorry, Microsoft, I don't buy that paying your prices for your integrated innovation solutions is any kind of real business win.

Go call me a capitalist, but I prefer open-source's competitive product approach to Microsoft's "our way or the highway" communism.

The study also found that Windows was dramatically more reliable.

Really?!

That's not the Windows I know. Server 2003 is a lot better than W2K, but in my experience, and with the companies I know, SLES still stays up longer than Server 2003.

You know, I also recall a few potential Windows security show-stoppers over that year. There was the SMB (Server Message Block) over TCP/IP exploit, and a whole slew of holes in TCP/IP -- and those are only a few of the ones that Microsoft has fixed.

Despite that, the study also found that the patch rate on Linux wasn't quite five times higher than Windows. The testers found that SuSE had 187 while Windows only had 39.

Hey, they finally got one right!

Yes, Novell, like any serious Linux vendor, fixes all its problems as fast as possible. Microsoft doesn't. Even when a problem is a potential system killer, sometimes the boys from Redmond drag their feet.

Oh, and funny this, but the SuSE patches tend to work, unlike some Microsoft patches like two recent critical Internet Explorer patches, or the infamous Windows 2000 patch that blew up ASP (Active Server Pages) pages that were running ISS (Internet Information Services).

Microsoft also claimed that Linux patches took twice as long to apply and broke applications.

What nonsense!

In my office lab, I run a W2K server, two Server 2003 servers, and a pair of SLES servers. As it happens I also, during this last year, updated a W2K server to Server 2003 and one of the SLES servers from 8 to 9.

On those systems, I've also installed a variety of server applications including SQL Server and MySQL.

You know what? First, the Linux patches always, always installed faster. And the only breakage I ever saw from either the Windows or the Linux systems was when I was working on W2K.

Do you know why I support Linux over Windows? Because I don't just write about operating systems. I actually use them, and Linux works better than Windows does.

Lest you think I'm only saying that because I know Linux better than Server 2003, think again.

I literally wrote several hundred pages on Server 2003 in an online reference guide to the operating system. You can see the most recent edition of that over at InformIT.

No, I know Linux. I know W2K and Server 2003. And the people who wrote this "independent" study of both certainly didn't know Linux well -- and I have my doubts about the Windows side, too.


--Steven J. Vaughan-Nichols


TOPICS: Computers/Internet
KEYWORDS: bestofgoldeneagle; linux; macos; suse; wasteoftime; windows; xandros
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1 posted on 11/23/2005 4:35:14 AM PST by StoneGiant
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To: StoneGiant

Plus MS only shipped 7 xbox 360's to my local Circuit City.


2 posted on 11/23/2005 4:36:43 AM PST by frankjr
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To: StoneGiant
MicroSoft is the Fisher-Price of software firms.

Windows is a Mickey Mouse operating system.

Linux is for grown-ups.
3 posted on 11/23/2005 4:38:28 AM PST by LIConFem (A fronte praecipitium, a tergo lupi.)
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To: StoneGiant

Linux is a Commie pinko plot against FReeper GE and M$. We're DOOMED!


4 posted on 11/23/2005 4:40:38 AM PST by Paladin2 (If the political indictment's from Fitz, the jury always acquits.)
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To: StoneGiant

This is a fight worth sitting out. Get an iBook.


5 posted on 11/23/2005 4:42:25 AM PST by Sunnyflorida
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To: Sunnyflorida
"...Get an iBook."

Ah, yes. Apple; the company that proves P.T. Barnum right every day.

;o)
6 posted on 11/23/2005 4:45:04 AM PST by LIConFem (A fronte praecipitium, a tergo lupi.)
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To: StoneGiant
"Security Innovation is a certified Microsoft partner for security services. We have both the Microsoft SWI and ACE certifications as an authorized professional services provider for Microsoft technologies."

What kind of idiots does Microsoft think we are, anyway?

Doesn't this just mean that they passed a few tests on Microsoft products, not that Bill Gates kicks them out of bed in the morning and tells them that he wants eggs sunny side up? Talk about mountains and molehills.

7 posted on 11/23/2005 4:54:27 AM PST by KarlInOhio (We were promised someone in the Scalia/Thomas mold. Let's keep it going with future nominees.)
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To: LIConFem

Stuff works.


8 posted on 11/23/2005 4:56:55 AM PST by Sunnyflorida
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To: LIConFem

Linux is the cheap plastic version of Unix. Solaris is for grown ups. *ducking* ;-)


9 posted on 11/23/2005 5:01:02 AM PST by advance_copy (Stand for life, or nothing at all)
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To: StoneGiant
Regardless of what Microsoft thinks, Steven, I think you're an idiot with an inferiority complex.
10 posted on 11/23/2005 5:04:13 AM PST by Doohickey (If you choose not to decide, you still have made a choice...I will choose freewill.)
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To: ShadowAce

ping


11 posted on 11/23/2005 5:05:28 AM PST by JoJo Gunn (Help control the Leftist population. Have them spayed or neutered. ©)
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To: advance_copy
"Linux is the cheap plastic version of Unix. Solaris is for grown ups. *ducking* ;-) "

LOL!! No ducking necessary. I cut my teeth on Solaris and Sun/OS. Still have a soft spot for Sun Micro.

;o)
12 posted on 11/23/2005 5:06:20 AM PST by LIConFem (A fronte praecipitium, a tergo lupi.)
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To: Sunnyflorida
"Stuff works."

Apparently not well or efficiently enough to be used by any firm requiring a high degree of performance or reliability.
13 posted on 11/23/2005 5:08:03 AM PST by LIConFem (A fronte praecipitium, a tergo lupi.)
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To: LIConFem
This debate is about as meaningful as Studebaker v Toyota. Long predicted, the whole game has finally moved to the Net. I believe MS stock has remained flat over the last 7 years; meanwhile, the growth in ad revenues for Google, et al demonstrate where the action is.

With its commanding market presence, all Google has to do is gradually roll-out desktop enhancements, and there goes the PC. (The list is quite endless given all the vertical market speciality applications; eg libarary search, geo-mapping, etc are just crude examples of what's coming down the pike.). With Linux handling the back-end server requirements, it's game-set-match.

14 posted on 11/23/2005 5:14:59 AM PST by lemura
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To: advance_copy
Linux is the cheap plastic version of Unix. Solaris is for grown ups. *ducking* ;-)

You need to duck after that one. NOBODY in their right mind should prefer any proprietary UNIX to LINUX. Bugs linger for years in proprietary UNIX systems. They get killed out in the first three weeks after a new LINUX release. That's because tens of millions of people use LINUX and just a couple of leftover losers here and there still use Solaris, Iris, HPUX and the like.

15 posted on 11/23/2005 5:18:49 AM PST by gungafox
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To: lemura

Larry Ellison said pretty much the same thing fifteen years ago - needless to say, we're all still waiting.


16 posted on 11/23/2005 5:21:34 AM PST by Senator Bedfellow
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To: gungafox
Bugs linger for years in proprietary UNIX systems.

But what if I like bugs?


17 posted on 11/23/2005 5:23:34 AM PST by advance_copy (Stand for life, or nothing at all)
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To: Senator Bedfellow
I agree - it's been bandied about for longer than 15 years. The problem, of course, is human nature. People are unwilling to change, until they do change. While the concept seemed logical, no one was going to toss their PCs for a Net appliance.

Today is a different story, and it's being driven by Google. Now that everyone is comfortable using its basic search, they're pushing their speciality services. As these begin to make significant headway in certain markets, such as libarary services, we will begin to see the impact on vendors selling vertical (ie MS) applications in these markets.

This is only the beginning - it's quite easy to see where it's going. Another obvious element is that Google is on a hiring binge - cadres of young PhDs are heading to Sunnyvale instead of Redmond.

18 posted on 11/23/2005 5:30:22 AM PST by lemura
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To: lemura

Would you use such apps, and if so, why?


19 posted on 11/23/2005 5:33:48 AM PST by Senator Bedfellow
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To: LIConFem
Apparently not well or efficiently enough to be used by any firm requiring a high degree of performance or reliability.

Thus the reason that Windows has more and higher spots in the Top 500 supercomputers than Apple.

Wait, that's not right, Apple is the one that's had absurdly low-cost systems in the Top 10 and currently holds six places, all above the one Windows system on the list (which, IIRC, cost more than any of the Apple systems on the list).

20 posted on 11/23/2005 5:40:30 AM PST by antiRepublicrat
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