Posted on 11/20/2005 9:27:40 AM PST by restornu
darks....you familiar with trolls?
My, you guys were really getting it on last night. Sorry I missed the debate! I love crawling around in the mud. LOL!
"Why can't we all just get along?..." I think we are all just one happy species and we haven't speciated or devolved yet???? Huh? lol
Hope everyone has a good day.
devolved? some haven't yet evolved first. : )
You have a nice one, too, phantom.
My charge: I find it more than preposterously amusing that the cumulative posts numbering in the thousands, which are contrary to, or dissent from, your agenda/belief system/ideas/opinions, have been and continue to be dismissed as not credible.
Given that not a single one of those posts contain a single scrap of empirical evidence, your amusement is misplaced.
Perhaps you're familiar with the Bandwagon Fallacy, sometimes known as appeal to popularity? Just because there have been many Internet sites devoted to something doesn't give that something any validity by itself. Heaven knows, there are websites devoted to Democrat foreign policy - doesn't mean that policy exists.
Science is worthless without empirical evidence. No creationist has ever been able to supply even the slightest shread. Kindly look at all the posts you mention, this volume of creationist thought, and find just one with actual empirical evidence to support the author's assertion. It's not our job to do you homework for you - the person makign an assertion must supply the evidence to it back up. Failing to do so while still claiming that there must be some evidence out there, suppressed by the vast scientific conspiracy, will expose you to ridicule, yes.
If I claimed to be a big-league player but couldn't swing the bat, I'd be open to ridicule. If I claimed to be a mathematical genius but had to count on my fingers and toes, I'd be open to ridicule. If I claimed to be ten feet tall, but have to stand on a stool to reach the top shelf, I'd be open to ridicule. And yes, if I claimed to have a valid scientific theory but couldn't supply any empirical evidence, then I'd be open to ridicule.
It's not unfair to roll one's eyes at those who insist that the rules of a discipline don't apply to them because they're somehow "special".
I bet Toads and Frogs might have a word to say about race-mixing?!
Huh? What you say? All your base are belong to us!
Now I know you are getting down and dirty! LOL!
It's not unfair to roll one's eyes at those who insist that the rules of a discipline don't apply to them because they're somehow "special".
Where did I state, EVER, my criticisms were pertaining to beliefs/scientists espousing "creationist" thought? Those are YOUR divine assumptions, as well as another's. I have repeatedly and clearly stated: there is a certain "agenda/belief system/idea/opinion" as pertains to pro-evolution posters in FR and those which are published by the Science Journal. I have never stated, nor intimated, that I am a creationist, nor that I disbelieve in evolution. Because the diviners on this thread make that claim, neither makes it true or factual.
I'd say it's quite "fair" to roll one's eyes when, in the course of this thread:
1. And even with your post, words, beliefs, and intent are attributed to me that I have never made (i.e., "creationist")
2. What I state is twisted into something I didn't state (i.e., "one way evolution ideas" becomes "anti-evolution", by several on this thread)
3. Words I state are left out so as to distort my intent (the use of the slash mark and the word "or" on my very first post, and what followed in thought with the word "And").
4. My statements are accepted neither on their face, nor later in clarification...rather, other's divined belief and negation of my intent takes place over my own statements.
The name-calling, baiting, and sundry other attacks against me have resulted from the diviners on this thread who refuse to accept, as fact, that the obnoxious behaviors which are exhibited on these kinds of threads are not conducive to "debate," rather, there is a mob mentality which exists to extinguish discourse or intelligent inquiry/dissent, even when reasons are given as to why someone may (and has) refused to state, with specificity, what they believe concerning evolution (though a diviner even claims my specific beliefs concerning evolution were actually stated on this thread---Lakeshark knows that is yet another lie about me, as my SPECIFIC opinion WAS told to him, a couple days ago. You may direct that question to Lakeshark as to whether I, in fact, did so, and whether or not what I said to him, or anything resembling what I said to him, can be found anywhere on this thread of 400 + posts).
And for what has gone on, there's plenty of reasons to roll one's eyes.
Kindly re-read the quote from me in your post.
No creationist has ever been able to supply even the slightest shread. Kindly look at all the posts you mention, this volume of creationist thought, and find just one with actual empirical evidence to support the author's assertion.
Where did I call you a creationist?
I never did. You referenced the creationist pseudo-science found on this thread and implied that surely some of it was credible. I answered that none of it actually contained evidence. I did say that the pseudo-science was posted by creationists, which is true.
And you still haven't responded to that same basic fact - none of the claims you referenced have ever been supported by a single shread of empirical evidence.
But go ahead - change the subject. It's easier than actually backing up your statement that there's evidence out there.
As a follow-up, I'm sorry if you feel tarnished by being grouped in with creationists.
But if you're going to spread the nonsense that there is somehow a scientific conspiracy to suppress evidence that contradicts evolution, you're the one casting your lot in with theirs.
sorry I will always regard that phrase with utter contempt and disdain!
I don't know how much stronger I can say it!
It aroues unpleasant feeling of my dyslexic days which has embrassed me and caused much pain!
Cite the post where I ever referenced CREATIONIST, or pseudo-science.
Where did I ever state that there is "evidence that contradicts evolution."
Sorry, I knew that, that's why I said it. Just kidding. Didn't mean to upset you :( But you invoked the 'What you say' phrase. 'All your base' follows naturally. Just a spoof on for'ners who make stupid video games. And believe me, my house is run amuk with video games.
Btw, dyslexics are known to be the most brilliant and creative people around. ;)
"Sorry, I knew that, that's why I said it. Just kidding. Didn't mean to upset you"
add that with an abusive mother who loved to mock!
"But you invoked the 'What you say' phrase"
what you say is a colonialism...
Kindly show me which posts among "the HUNDREDS of names/links to various scientists' dissenting opinions and studies, posted on FR on what must be thousands of posts and on a multitude of threads, which put forth dissenting theories/opinions/arguments/conclusions" that you reference aren't creationist in origin.
If you don't think that there is any evidence that contradicts evolution, then we have no dispute.
Without evidence to support them, there are no "dissenting theories" after all.
This does NOT state, nor even infer, that I was targeting/naming creationist, or pseudo-science.
XenuDidit placemark
Where are they, all these dissenting opinions on these boards that don't rely on either of these?
That is not true; because there is not a 100% concensus on everything evolution, there is dissenting theories/ideas/beliefs, regarding various aspects of evolution.
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