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To: nicmarlo
My charge: I find it more than preposterously amusing that the cumulative posts numbering in the thousands, which are contrary to, or dissent from, your agenda/belief system/ideas/opinions, have been and continue to be dismissed as not credible.

Given that not a single one of those posts contain a single scrap of empirical evidence, your amusement is misplaced.

Perhaps you're familiar with the Bandwagon Fallacy, sometimes known as appeal to popularity? Just because there have been many Internet sites devoted to something doesn't give that something any validity by itself. Heaven knows, there are websites devoted to Democrat foreign policy - doesn't mean that policy exists.

Science is worthless without empirical evidence. No creationist has ever been able to supply even the slightest shread. Kindly look at all the posts you mention, this volume of creationist thought, and find just one with actual empirical evidence to support the author's assertion. It's not our job to do you homework for you - the person makign an assertion must supply the evidence to it back up. Failing to do so while still claiming that there must be some evidence out there, suppressed by the vast scientific conspiracy, will expose you to ridicule, yes.

If I claimed to be a big-league player but couldn't swing the bat, I'd be open to ridicule. If I claimed to be a mathematical genius but had to count on my fingers and toes, I'd be open to ridicule. If I claimed to be ten feet tall, but have to stand on a stool to reach the top shelf, I'd be open to ridicule. And yes, if I claimed to have a valid scientific theory but couldn't supply any empirical evidence, then I'd be open to ridicule.

It's not unfair to roll one's eyes at those who insist that the rules of a discipline don't apply to them because they're somehow "special".

404 posted on 11/22/2005 6:46:25 AM PST by highball ("I find that the harder I work, the more luck I seem to have." -- Thomas Jefferson)
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To: highball; Lakeshark; Darksheare
No creationist has ever been able to supply even the slightest shread. Kindly look at all the posts you mention, this volume of creationist thought, and find just one with actual empirical evidence to support the author's assertion.

It's not unfair to roll one's eyes at those who insist that the rules of a discipline don't apply to them because they're somehow "special".

Where did I state, EVER, my criticisms were pertaining to beliefs/scientists espousing "creationist" thought? Those are YOUR divine assumptions, as well as another's. I have repeatedly and clearly stated: there is a certain "agenda/belief system/idea/opinion" as pertains to pro-evolution posters in FR and those which are published by the Science Journal. I have never stated, nor intimated, that I am a creationist, nor that I disbelieve in evolution. Because the diviners on this thread make that claim, neither makes it true or factual.

I'd say it's quite "fair" to roll one's eyes when, in the course of this thread:

1. And even with your post, words, beliefs, and intent are attributed to me that I have never made (i.e., "creationist")
2. What I state is twisted into something I didn't state (i.e., "one way evolution ideas" becomes "anti-evolution", by several on this thread)
3. Words I state are left out so as to distort my intent (the use of the slash mark and the word "or" on my very first post, and what followed in thought with the word "And").
4. My statements are accepted neither on their face, nor later in clarification...rather, other's divined belief and negation of my intent takes place over my own statements.

The name-calling, baiting, and sundry other attacks against me have resulted from the diviners on this thread who refuse to accept, as fact, that the obnoxious behaviors which are exhibited on these kinds of threads are not conducive to "debate," rather, there is a mob mentality which exists to extinguish discourse or intelligent inquiry/dissent, even when reasons are given as to why someone may (and has) refused to state, with specificity, what they believe concerning evolution (though a diviner even claims my specific beliefs concerning evolution were actually stated on this thread---Lakeshark knows that is yet another lie about me, as my SPECIFIC opinion WAS told to him, a couple days ago. You may direct that question to Lakeshark as to whether I, in fact, did so, and whether or not what I said to him, or anything resembling what I said to him, can be found anywhere on this thread of 400 + posts).

And for what has gone on, there's plenty of reasons to roll one's eyes.

407 posted on 11/22/2005 8:41:18 AM PST by nicmarlo
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