Posted on 11/17/2005 5:37:10 AM PST by TRY ONE
Democrats in the Military:
Richard Gephardt: Air National Guard, 1965-71.
David Bonior: Staff Sgt., Air Force 1968-72.
Tom Daschle: 1st Lt., Air Force SAC 1969-72.
Al Gore: enlisted Aug. 1969; sent to Vietnam Jan. 1971 as an army ournalist in 20th Engineer Brigade.
Bob Kerrey: Lt. j.g. Navy 1966-69; Medal of Honor, Vietnam.
Daniel Inouye: Army 1943-47; Medal of Honor, WWII.
John Kerry: Lt., Navy 1966-70; Silver Star, Bronze Star with Combat V, Purple Hearts.
Charles Rangel: Staff Sgt., Army 1948-52; Bronze Star, Korea.
Max Cleland: Captain, Army 1965-68; Silver Star & Bronze Star, Vietnam. Paraplegic from war injuries. Served in Congress.
Ted Kennedy: Army, 1951-53.
Tom Harkin: Lt., Navy, 1962-67; Naval Reserve, 1968-74.
Jack Reed: Army Ranger, 1971-1979; Captain, Army Reserve 1979-91.
Fritz Hollings: Army officer in WWII; Bronze Star and seven campaign ribbons.
Leonard Boswell: Lt. Col., Army 1956-76; Vietnam, DFCs, Bronze Stars,and Soldier's Medal.
Pete Peterson: Air Force Captain, POW. Purple Heart, Silver Star and Legion of Merit.
Mike Thompson: Staff sergeant, 173rd Airborne, Purple Heart.
Bill McBride: Candidate for Fla. Governor. Marine in Vietnam; Bronze Star with Combat V.
Gray Davis: Army Captain in Vietnam, Bronze Star.
Pete Stark: Air Force 1955-57
Chuck Robb: Vietnam
Howell Heflin: Silver Star
George McGovern: Silver Star & DFC during WWII.
Bill Clinton: Did not serve. Student deferments. Entered draft but received #311.
Jimmy Carter: Seven years in the Navy.
Walter Mondale: Army 1951-1953
John Glenn: WWII and Korea; six DFCs and AirMedal with 18 Clusters.
Tom Lantos: Served in Hungarian underground in WWII. Saved by Raoul Wallenberg.
Republicans --
Dick Cheney: did not serve. Several deferments, the last by marriage.
Dennis Hastert: did not serve.
Tom Delay: did not serve.
Roy Blunt: did not serve.
Bill Frist: did not serve.
Mitch McConnell: did not serve.
Rick Santorum: did not serve.
Trent Lott: did not serve.
John Ashcroft: did not serve. Seven deferments to teach business.
Jeb Bush: did not serve.
Karl Rove: did not serve.
Saxby Chambliss: did not serve. "Bad knee." The man who attacked Max Cleland's patriotism.
Paul Wolfowitz: did not serve.
Vin Weber: did not serve.
Richard Perle: did not serve.
Douglas Feith: did not serve.
Eliot Abrams: did not serve.
Richard Shelby: did not serve.
Jon! Kyl: did not serve.
Tim Hutchison: did not serve.
Christopher Cox: did not serve.
Newt Gingrich: did not serve.
Don Rumsfeld: served in Navy (1954-57) as flight instructor.
George W. Bush: failed to complete his six-year National Guard; got assigned to Alabama so he could campaign for family friend running for U.S. Senate; failed to show up for required medical exam, disappeared from duty.
Ronald Reagan: due to poor eyesight, served in a non- combat role making movies.
B-1 Bob Dornan: Consciously enlisted after fighting was over in Korea.
Phil Gramm: did not serve.
John McCain: Vietnam POW, Silver Star, Bronze Star, Legion of Merit, Purple Heart and Distinguished Flying Cross.
Dana Rohrabacher: did not serve.
John M. McHugh: did not serve.
JC Watts: did not serve.
Jack Kemp: did not serve. "Knee problem, " although continued in NFL for 8 years as quarterback.
Dan Quayle: Journalism unit of the Indiana National Guard.
Rudy Giuliani: did not serve.
George Pataki: did not serve.
Spencer Abraham: did not serve.
John Engler: did not serve.
Lindsey Graham: National Guard lawyer.
Arnold Schwarzenegger: AWOL from Austrian army base.
Pundits & Preachers
Sean Hannity: did not serve.
Rush Limbaugh: did not serve (4-F with a 'pilonidal cyst.')
Bill O'Reilly: did not serve.
Michael Savage: did not serve.
George Will: did not serve.
Chris Matthews: did not serve.
Paul Gigot: did not serve.
Bill Bennett: did not serve.
Pat Buchanan: did not serve.
John Wayne: did not serve.
Bill Kristol: did not serve.
Kenneth Starr: did not serve.
Antonin Scalia: did not serve.
Clarence Thomas: did not serve.
Ralph Reed: did not serve.
Michael Medved: did not serve.
Charlie Daniels: did not serve.
Ted Nugent: did not serve. (He only shoots at things that don't shoot back.)
Please keep this information circulating --Illinois State Sen. Howard W. Carroll
Where's Bob Dole?
Misleading is right. John Kerry the Medal of Honor? Give me a break...Also how about the one who "loathed" the military?
Where's Bob Dole?
Of course there is a list of republicans who served. But that is not the point.
BTW, When did Chris Matthews become a republican?
This list isn't worth discussion, but since it is here, notice that even with McCain they don't say he enlisted, or the years he served, like the do for the Democrats.
And they don't say that Bush signed up, or how long he served, just that he got out early -- but they say exactly what Kerry did, without saying he got out early.
But this is not a battle that we should even fight. We should reject the premise.
People who serve in the military should be honored FOR THEIR SERVICE. But having done so does not insulate you from criticism for subsequent acts. Chambliss didn't "question" Cleland's patriotism, he ran commercials truthfully pointing out Cleland's votes on the Homeland Security bill. A vote that Zell Miller said was unpatriotic, but heck, we can't control those crazy democrats.
BTW, this is a great point. The democrats always point to the 2002 election to say that Bush "questioned the patriotism" of Cleland by saying Cleland put the unions ahead of national security.
If that is "questioning patriotism", than it is clear that saying the President lied to get us into a war, putting his oil buddies ahead of 2000 dead soldiers, is most certainly "questioning HIS patriotism".
I don't think it is in either case, but the democrats insist they are not questioning anybody's patriotism.
Have you noticed how often the Democrats have to insist they are patriotic, even though nobody is saying they aren't? Guess they know the truth, and can't handle it.
I challenge some of those 'candy butts' to fly a fighter jet. Just once.
He picked up this list and posted it.
Ha, ha, ha....Don't think our military is dumb. Just send them this list and let them comment on it, ok? Consider the state and where it's from.
"I challenge some of those 'candy butts' to fly a fighter jet. Just once."
Yep. Especially the death trap the president flew.
Still, the point is basically moot. Many of those museam pieces are draft era malcontents who stumbled their way into office. They clearly hold no special attachment to the present day military, a fact that is not lost on us.
And I betcha Illinois State Sen. Howard W. Carroll voted for him in 1992 over George H.W. Bush (Distinguished Flying Cross) and in 1996 over Bob Dole (2 purple hearts and bronze star).
I'm trying to check on Senator Carroll.
There was a State Senator Howard W. Carroll, it looks like he retired in 2003 after serving 26 years in the senate. THere is also some reference to a State Senator Howard W. Carroll who was elected in 1992, but I think it is the same guy.
This list was put together before the election in 2004, so it's been around a while.
I'm trying to find out if the senator himself served. If not, and if I feel frisky, I will go to all the sites where I found the list that have comments sections, and simply say he "forgot" one, and add his name to the "did not serve" category.
There must be a list somewhere of all members of congress that served in the military. I note though that Democrats make a MUCH BIGGER deal out of their "military service", obviously to counteract their anti-military party affiliation. Republicans don't have to do this, they still support the military.
Who Served? (Needs FReeper de-bunking)
Included this information:
Guess who else did not serve in the military? Former Illinois State Senator Howard W. Carroll (D-Chicago) who signed this letter. He has been either an elected or appointed politician his entire life. He graduated from Loyola University Law School in 1967 and spent his whole live serving in either the House or Senate of the Illinois state legislature.
It also had a web site that gives a list of all the former military people in congres. It is quite a list for both democrats and republicans.
What about Hitlery?
And a whole lot of Republicans didn't serve when there was a draft. So I guess they were better at draft dodging thant the Democrats were?
I think that they mean Bob Kerrey. The former governor and former Senator from Nebraska. He was a Navy Seal and won the Medal of Honor in Vietnam. Also lost a leg while doing so.
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