Posted on 11/12/2005 11:54:34 AM PST by andyk
Either you a writing tasteless satire, or you are daring the Admin Moderators to ZOT you.
Smiling...you're welcome.
Got me...I cannot understand why someone would hold an account that long just to post something... must have wanted to go out in a blaze of glory.
The esteemed professor says "molten metal" found at the base of the WTC towers... molten metal is kind of generic... but the curtain wall of the building had a lot of aluminum in it... Aluminum melts at only 933º F and it would puddle. I think I remember reading something about melted aluminum... I have not read anything about "vaporized" steel which would take a LOT more heat than a chemical explosive would be likely to produce.
OK, on a real computer now....
But it looks like I don't have to type out a long treatise anyway, as this has already been pretty much debunked, and long before I became a FReeper the theories of the collapse well discussed.
The 'perfessor' has done a pretty good job of propaganda here though. He must have minored in political science, rather than engineering or something useful. I'll admit that coming from sensible, fairly conservative institution added a bit of credibility to him. The more I think about it, the more wrong and the more obvious he is though. Unfortunately, the general public will not have the analytic bent of most FReepers, so this will just add more fuel to the conspiracy nut's fires.
Now, I have always felt that the OKC bombing had demolition charges placed on some of the front structural members. So, I guess I might be added to the conspiracy nut list concerning that... Nonetheless, From the very first video shown by the news helicopters of the building, I said; 'No way was all that structural damage done by an air blast.... Even if the U-haul was placed right against the building damage would have unlikely to have done all of that." Then all of the later developments have only reinforced my first opinions.
But yeah, in this case, the 'perfesser' has a political agenda, not a scientific one.
Relax, guys. He got this information from stones
in a hat.
So, even if there were explosives planted in the buildings before the planes crashed, he goes on to assume they weren't planted by Muslims? He'd rather assume they were planted by Bush to cause a war in Iraq? Although he doesn't want to say it, he knows the conspiracy kooks will connect the dots.
Liberal pointy heads are such idiots.
Only for complete knuckleheads who want to believe anything but the obvious due to personal problems.
The collapse of the building cause a huge amount of potential energy to be converted into sound, vibration, wind, and HEAT. Indeed, the gravitational energy that was released when each of the towers fell was comparable to the energy in a small nuclear bomb. Although the energy was released over a period of seconds rather than microseconds, it should still hardly be surprising if it was sufficient in some places to vaporize steel.
To view it another way, the amount of energy that would have been converted into heat by the collapse of the structures dwarfs any plausible conventional bomb that might have placed therein.
Just one more thing... Concerning the vaporized metal... Yeah, that is way too generic a statement. I can think of quite a few explanations for the finding of such material, the least of which is explosives.
I'd have to have seen and analyzed it for myself before I would be willing to say that it was anything but residue from cutting / plasma torches or abrasive cutting wheels (which also produce the appearance of vaporized steel) from the people trying to look for survivors, or indeed, even residue from the original construction.
Mad Ivan said this on the other post about this hallucinatory discussion...... I agree with him.
Really, someone should beat you with an iron bar for peddling this paranoid rubbish, as it exploits the honoured dead.
Ivan
If you had said the same post to me twice, in person, I would have punched you so hard in the face that you would be screaming for your mother to help you find the remnants of your nose and teeth. Stop urinating on the dead with unadulterated poppycock such as this.
Ivan
Oops, I'm repeating myself! :)
Regards, Ivan
It was a MIRACLE. Call me a kook. I don't care. I believe that angels kept those buildings from falling OVER instead of DOWN.
I remember thinking it when I saw them going down. I remember thinking that God had sent angels to keep them from going OVER, saving thousands more lives.
I BELIEVE it was a miracle!
I'm not laughing. I don't know anything about explosives so whether the bad guys also planted bombs is something the experts will have to figure out. This article IMO is not about this though but about blaming someone else. Who? You don't just sleep for 6 years and come out with a "hi guys". He/she was brought out for a reason.
It's time to shut down this journal. Somebody's got to make a list of these crackpot journals. (BTW, I'll bet it's not a real physics journal.)
Now, of course, the guy conveniently sidesteps motivation, but this is EXACTLY the same thing as Farrakhan's conspiracy mongering. Why would somebody have bombs ready in the exact building just hoping, hoping that some Muslims would drive one plane into each building. How long ago were they planted? How did they know the Muslims would plan this? How did they know the pilots would hit the target?
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