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I'm not going to hit you, but I'll be honest with you. Your good boy/holier than thou schtick is one of the major reasons you're lonely and alone. At some point a grown man has to realize that even good people make bad decisions. In your world those who give in to their lusts might be ruined for life, but the real world doesn't work that way.

You are so right, you know me so well, don't you. Man, you ought to be a mind-reader, with your abilities.

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I never said they were ruined for life. I am saying,and ALWAYS have, that people who are doing that kind of thing NOW, are doing wrong. I did NOT say that someone who may have done bad in the past cannot change, and become a good person. If that was the case, that if a person makes a mistake, and is then branded for life, then we are ALL done for.

MY PROBLEM is with those who claim that people can do these kinds of things, on a daily basis, and not see anything wrong with it. And it REALLY upsets me when so-called Christian people make allowances for this kind of CURRENT, not past, behavior , in people.

To reiterate:: what someone did in the PAST does not matter, if they have changed, and become a decent person. I am speaking of CURRENT behavior in people.

I'm not going to hit you, but I'll be honest with you. Your good boy/holier than thou schtick is one of the major reasons you're lonely and alone. At some point a grown man has to realize that even good people make bad decisions. In your world those who give in to their lusts might be ruined for life, but the real world doesn't work that way.

You're right, Melas. My current galpal had a VERY wild run between age 16-25, though then had a personal odyssey that settled her down a lot. I didn't even know her until well after this process ended. I never ask about pasts, but early in our courtship she sat me down and told me about her back story, mostly because she felt I should at least know a thumbnail sketch of her life as we were getting more serious. Any details she offered were by her initiative. I didn't pry or ask for details. Not my style.

I was very impressed by her sensitivity about the matter. She was impressed that I never asked about it, and when it was time, I didn't pry.

In any case, anyone who suggests that she is somehow ruined for life because of a period where they gave into their lusts is off base. Take the person as you find them - they are the sum total of their life experience, and deal with the person they ARE, not with the person they WERE.