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MINIX 3.0 Released
OS News ^ | 2005-10-24 10:11:57 UTC | Thom Holwerda

Posted on 10/27/2005 8:49:24 AM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach

Today, Andy Tanenbaum has officially announced the release of MINIX 3.0, the third stable version of this rather legendary operating system. The launch of v3 has been accompanied by a new website and a new logo. From the new website: "MINIX 3 is a new open-source operating system designed to be highly reliable and secure. It is based somewhat on previous versions of MINIX, but is fundamentally different in many key ways. MINIX 1 and 2 were intended as teaching tools; MINIX 3 adds the new goal of being usable as a serious system on resource-limited and embedded computers and for applications requiring high reliability." Read on for more information.

In this announcement, posted in comp.os.minix June this year, Andy Tanenbaum announced he and his group were working on an updated version of MINIX, which had its last major release in 1996 with version 2.0. However, in an email conversation, Andy Tanenbaum asked me not to announce this; he did not want the press all over it until the official release, planned for the end of October. Which is now.

Legendary?

Now, why is MINIX considered legendary? Well, because MINIX, in combination with Andy Tanenbaum's books on operating system design, was the blueprint for what later would become the biggest free and open source operating system of the world-- yes, Linux. In Linus Torvalds' autobiography, "Just for Fun", Linus says that Tanenbaum's book "Operating Systems: Design and Implementation" and MINIX were what "launched me to new heights". More on this here.

That book, co-authored with Albert S. Woodhull, explains the inner workings of the MINIX operating system, and as a result the MINIX source code was sold together with the book. "Operating Systems Design and Implementation" has therefor also been revised, in order to reflect MINIX 3.0.

About 3.0

MINIX 3.0 is released under a BSD-like license, and can be freely downloaded, altered, and so forth. In contrary to the Linux kernel (monolithic) and the WinNT/OSX kernels (hybrid), MINIX is a microkernel operating system. This crucial difference between MINIX and Linux led to one of the most famous flamewars in computer history, between Torvalds and Tanenbaum, held in comp.os.minix. You can read an abstract here. As a result of MINIX being a microkernel, that part of the kernel that lives in kernelspace consists of only 3800 lines of code. All device drivers (except the clock) live in userspace.

Over 300 UNIX programs are available for MINIX 3. It is POSIX-compliant, available for x86 (ARM7 and PPC ports under way) and supports up to 4GB of memory. A port of X Windows is also underway.

On the website, it is made clear that MINIX 3.0 is by no means as complete and full-featured as BSD or Linux. It is also explained that besides the traditional education market, MINIX 3.0 is also aimed at the embedded market, and applications where the GPL is too restrictive.

--Thom Holwerda


TOPICS: Computers/Internet
KEYWORDS: operatingsystems
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach; N3WBI3

Is this a verified legal copy of Unix, or is it still possibly illegal? With these clones born overseas you constantly have to wonder.


21 posted on 10/27/2005 11:00:27 AM PDT by Golden Eagle
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To: Golden Eagle
...you constantly have to wonder.

You only "have to wonder" if you're a MS shill trying to keep people from exploring other possibilities. Give it up.

22 posted on 10/27/2005 11:16:46 AM PDT by ShadowAce (Linux -- The Ultimate Windows Service Pack)
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To: Golden Eagle
Please see: The UNIX time line to see where Minix came from.. http://www.levenez.com/unix/

Minix began in 1987 and is a direct descendant of the the 1979 Unix Time Sharing Edition Version 7 (unlike Linux which is not a direct descendant). It licensing is BSD style (meaning you can take it change it sell it and keep the code to yourself so I have to wonder...

Why did you come here to make that comment?
23 posted on 10/27/2005 11:40:33 AM PDT by N3WBI3 (If SCO wants to go fishing they should buy a permit and find a lake like the rest of us..)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

Thanks for the Minix info.. interesting.


24 posted on 10/27/2005 12:11:40 PM PDT by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi ... Monthly Donor spoken Here. Go to ... https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

Aww they dont plan on selling those?...


25 posted on 10/27/2005 12:17:23 PM PDT by N3WBI3 (If SCO wants to go fishing they should buy a permit and find a lake like the rest of us..)
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To: NormsRevenge; ShadowAce
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26 posted on 10/27/2005 12:22:13 PM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach (History is soon Forgotten,)
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To: Golden Eagle
possibly illegal

How do you define illegal?

27 posted on 10/27/2005 12:23:17 PM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach (History is soon Forgotten,)
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To: N3WBI3
We'll see. I think AMD already has a chip available...

I'll go look...

28 posted on 10/27/2005 12:24:46 PM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach (History is soon Forgotten,)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
Yes, I saw that the other day... we run our windows environment mostly on ESX so I was going to use that next week... Hows it working for you?
29 posted on 10/27/2005 12:26:38 PM PDT by N3WBI3 (If SCO wants to go fishing they should buy a permit and find a lake like the rest of us..)
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To: N3WBI3
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30 posted on 10/27/2005 12:27:45 PM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach (History is soon Forgotten,)
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To: N3WBI3
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31 posted on 10/27/2005 12:30:12 PM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach (History is soon Forgotten,)
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To: N3WBI3

I haven't tried it.

The free version just came out on Oct 20.


32 posted on 10/27/2005 12:32:02 PM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach (History is soon Forgotten,)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
Very interesting! How would it compare to muLinux? I've got a couple of old computers at home (80286 & 486) which could profit from this.
33 posted on 10/27/2005 12:32:30 PM PDT by COBOL2Java (Many Democrats are not weak Americans. But nearly all weak Americans are Democrats.)
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To: COBOL2Java

I think it is real basic....DOS before Windows like....


34 posted on 10/27/2005 12:59:05 PM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach (History is soon Forgotten,)
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To: ShadowAce

Will the name calling never stop with you people?


35 posted on 10/27/2005 7:03:47 PM PDT by Golden Eagle
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To: N3WBI3
Minix began in 1987 and is a direct descendant of the the 1979 Unix Time Sharing Edition Version 7

Direct descendant? Are you sure of this, and also claiming that all derivatives of this source are 100% freeware?

Why did you come here to make that comment?

Since there are several excellent versions of bonafide US-born Unix available, such as Sun Solaris and Apple OSX, which are completely legal copies, I wouldn't want anyone using an illegal foreign copy instead, if that is possibly the case.

36 posted on 10/27/2005 7:35:35 PM PDT by Golden Eagle
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
How do you define illegal?

Defined as originally developed using copyrighted Unix code in any possible way, and then releasing it under a different license that allows infinite duplication.

37 posted on 10/27/2005 7:40:43 PM PDT by Golden Eagle
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To: Golden Eagle
Direct descendant? Are you sure of this, and also claiming that all derivatives of this source are 100% freeware?

It is much easier to find out if say... Open Source Minix is stealing code than MS so no, I am not 100% sure but I am far more sure of that then the windows box I am on now.. Given the Minix Kernel is a slim 4000 lines even SCO should be able to find out in less than three years..

Since there are several excellent versions of bonafide US-born Unix available, such as Sun Solaris and Apple OSX, which are completely legal copies

And neither of which meet the slim hardware usage that Minix meets it will run on far less than Solaris or OSX. So if I want to run something on a small old p120 I have lying in the closet what am I to do?

38 posted on 10/27/2005 7:57:39 PM PDT by N3WBI3 (If SCO wants to go fishing they should buy a permit and find a lake like the rest of us..)
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To: Golden Eagle

Does BSD count?


39 posted on 10/27/2005 7:59:39 PM PDT by N3WBI3 (If SCO wants to go fishing they should buy a permit and find a lake like the rest of us..)
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To: N3WBI3

But you're not liable for illegal use if you use software with a warranty, which many vendors such as Microsoft provide. No users have ever been liable for anything they have ever been accused of.

You could easily run a version of SCO Unix on your P120, they have of course been doing legal versions of Unix on Intel longer than anyone. But since that is a legal version, it may not be free, which seems to be a higher priority on many people's list than whether it is a legal version or not.

Shall I venture a guess as to which you prefer? Are you going to call Shadowace into confession for his insults?


40 posted on 10/27/2005 8:13:56 PM PDT by Golden Eagle
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