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My Take on Plamegate (I hope I am right)
26 October 2005 | Perdogg

Posted on 10/26/2005 2:05:22 PM PDT by Perdogg

As I have stated before, I believe the evidence is to weak to go after Rove or Libby. There is no evidence that they violated IIPA or Section 793; Section 1683 is a tough road to hoe; anything less would be pardoned on Christmas Eve 2008. Stating that I do not believe thye will be indicted.

We know that Ashcroft appointed Fitzgerald in December 2003 to take over the investigation. Why?

I thought at the time, it was done so to avoid a conflict of interest since Bush was running for re-election. But apparently it done because Ashcroft felt the issue was serious enough to do so. The White House could not investigate the CIA.

My feeling on this is that targets of this investigation are the following:



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1 posted on 10/26/2005 2:05:23 PM PDT by Perdogg
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To: Perdogg

That all makes sense to me.

Boy, would I love to see Plame and Wilson hopping around in orange suits and leg irons!


2 posted on 10/26/2005 2:07:19 PM PDT by Palladin (America! America! God shed His grace on Thee.)
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To: Perdogg

The person who appointed Joe Wilson to the mission to Niger also appointed Craig Livingston to be the WH security chief..


3 posted on 10/26/2005 2:14:09 PM PDT by ken5050
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To: ken5050

What?


4 posted on 10/26/2005 2:16:47 PM PDT by brivette
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To: Perdogg

Has anyone seen that simian, David Corn lately?


5 posted on 10/26/2005 2:18:34 PM PDT by Suzy Quzy
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To: brivette

He's trying to say that we never did find out who hired Craig Livingstone, and maybe we will never find out who hired Slow Joe Wilson to go to Niger.


6 posted on 10/26/2005 2:20:06 PM PDT by Suzy Quzy
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To: Suzy Quzy
He was on TV Sunday on Channel 9's (CBS's washington DC affliate)'Eye on Washington'.

He didn't look too good and was very vociferous when it came to Plame.
7 posted on 10/26/2005 2:21:18 PM PDT by Perdogg ("Facts are stupid things." - President Ronald Wilson Reagan)
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To: Perdogg

Has David Corn ever looked GOOD?


8 posted on 10/26/2005 2:24:06 PM PDT by Suzy Quzy
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To: Perdogg
Rush said today that Katrina Vanden Heuvel was looking quite haggard yesterday on MSNBC. Perhaps here hubby, Mr. Corn, is in some trouble.

Unfortunately, I do not think this investigation has gone beyond the "leak." I think some unexpected people have shown up being tied to the leak, and an unexpected conspiracy to commit the leak may be suggested by some of the evidence gathered so far; but I think Fitz does not see his job as trying to figure out why The Missus Wilson got her hubby sent to Niger in the first place. That is irrelevant to whether anyone committed a crime by revealing the name of The Missus to reporters. We are not going to get "closure" on how this whole caper went down unless the Administration decides to get to the bottom of it, and it looks like they really don't want to go there. Too many hornets in that nest IMO.

9 posted on 10/26/2005 2:35:48 PM PDT by Dems_R_Losers (2,4,6,8 - a burka makes me look overweight!)
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To: Perdogg
Why and who sent Joe Wilson to Niger? Once this question is answered, I believe the rest of pieces will fit.

I wish I could take a peek at the last page of this mystery.

10 posted on 10/26/2005 2:40:54 PM PDT by syriacus (Bush hasn't done a bad job, all things (WOT, vagaries of Nature, Lib lies + obstruction) considered)
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To: ken5050
The person who appointed Joe Wilson to the mission to Niger also appointed Craig Livingston to be the WH security chief..

I thought he was holding all those FBI files that ended up in Hillary's office.

11 posted on 10/26/2005 2:46:36 PM PDT by feedback doctor (Dan Rather - guilty until proved innocent)
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To: Perdogg

Is there a chance that Valerie had a covert status - that she was in some kind-of operation we know nothing about?

I mean if she was really covert, would we know?

And yes, yes, I understand she was no-longer-covert, but maybe whe was covert-again.


12 posted on 10/26/2005 2:52:44 PM PDT by colorcountry (Proud Parent of a Soldier, a UPS Driver, an Executive, a Construction Worker, and a Student)
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To: Suzy Quzy
Has David Corn ever looked GOOD?

He's not a handsome man so the answer would be . . . nope.

13 posted on 10/26/2005 2:58:31 PM PDT by gop_gene
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To: Dems_R_Losers

Why is there an investigation to who forged the documents. If this was all about leaks, this case would be over.


14 posted on 10/26/2005 3:05:46 PM PDT by Perdogg ("Facts are stupid things." - President Ronald Wilson Reagan)
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To: colorcountry

Considering Novak's comment on this, the answer would be no. He says that the CIA did NOT urge him or push him to keep the name secret. Now, the guy who supposedly talked to Novak now says he told Novak to keep it secret, but his motive for saying that NOW is his own job security. At the time, Novak said that the CIA did NOT tell him to keep the name secret...which would indicate she was not then, a covert agent.


15 posted on 10/26/2005 4:25:40 PM PDT by t2buckeye
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To: Perdogg

That would be just and wonderful. But it's hard to believe there would be no "leaks" at all about those people.


16 posted on 10/26/2005 4:32:11 PM PDT by rushmom (l)
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To: Palladin
Boy, would I love to see Plame and Wilson hopping around in orange suits and leg irons!

I believe the correct term is 'frog marched out of the White House'; that's the liberals' wish for Karl Rove.

They've all been celebrating 'Fitzmas' early.

Would that there were bitter medicine in store for the lot of them.

17 posted on 10/26/2005 5:02:15 PM PDT by IncPen (Because it's not your money, Senator Kennedy. It's mine, and I'd like to keep it)
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To: Suzy Quzy

Thanks!


18 posted on 10/26/2005 5:12:12 PM PDT by brivette
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To: frankjr; the Real fifi
I am listening to the John Batchelor Radio and Eddie Hayes, a democratic from Court TV, who two weeks ago was saying Rove/Libby were in trouble, is now back tracking. He said that Perjury/obstruction over the IIPA no act would not be, he thinks lies over leaks would not be in the interest of a prosecutor. He doesn't think Libby and Rove are the target, but seem to think someone in some capacity at the WH did something. Eli Lake from the NY Sun doesn't think this is about anything.
19 posted on 10/26/2005 7:17:54 PM PDT by Perdogg ("Facts are stupid things." - President Ronald Wilson Reagan)
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To: gop_gene

He would look good in bright orange and stainless steel.


20 posted on 10/26/2005 7:18:31 PM PDT by Perdogg ("Facts are stupid things." - President Ronald Wilson Reagan)
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