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1 posted on 10/24/2005 4:22:43 PM PDT by EveningStar
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To: sitetest

classical music ping


2 posted on 10/24/2005 4:23:14 PM PDT by EveningStar
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To: Republicanprofessor; Borges

classical music ping


3 posted on 10/24/2005 4:25:45 PM PDT by EveningStar
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To: EveningStar

I'm a Russophile; Tchaikovsky, Rimsky-Korsakov, Stravinsky, Borodin etc. Would I like Bruckner?


6 posted on 10/24/2005 4:34:46 PM PDT by saganite (The poster formerly known as Arkie 2)
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To: EveningStar
...third symphony on my car radio as I was driving home. It was from a recording by George Szell and the Cleveland Orchestra. Sometime later, I heard the entire recording and then I heard a recording of his unfinished ninth symphony. I was now a total Bruckner fan.

I just recently picked the Szell recording at a garage sale. I'll be converting it to CD.

7 posted on 10/24/2005 4:35:49 PM PDT by js1138 (Great is the power of steady misrepresentation.)
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To: EveningStar

Bruckner was also a master of the choral motet. He wrote some of the most lush, spine tingling choral music I have ever sung and heard. Look up some Bruckner choral motets and you will not be disappointed.


11 posted on 10/24/2005 5:12:00 PM PDT by randita
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To: EveningStar

Bruckner = the Man. His life was tragic and is one of my favorite stories to bore my non-classicly inclined friends with. Hanslick!

I own his complete symphonies and was able to hear many of them performed at the Musikverein when I lived in Vienna. They worship him there, as he should be everywhere. I couldn't pick a favorite, but the parts of his works that affect me the most are the "Sweet Remembrance" them in the slow movement of the Seventh (my name for it) and the coda of the Finale of the Eighth.

Bruckner's life story is impossibly moving. A provincial organist who showed little compositional skill until his genius was unlocked by listening to Wagner. He then realized most of his dreams; meeting Wagner (and dedicating the Third to him), meeting the Emperor FJ (and dedicating the Eighth to him), becoming famous, and instructing the next generation of composers at the Conservatory. But his life was tormented by musical factions, well-intentioned friends who did not understand him, an unfulfilled desire for domestic bliss, and the inability to complete his most treasured work, the Ninth.

Here's to you, Anton.


13 posted on 10/24/2005 5:29:37 PM PDT by Cyclopean Squid (Astro-nut)
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To: EveningStar
I'll dispute Mr. Svejda's elevation of Furtwängler as the gold standard of Bruckner conducting. Eugen Jochum always did it for me.

One of Bruckner's techniques was to end a movement without a long held note, for example, a fermata over a whole note. He would end a movement on a shorter note, and making the ending sound convincing has always been difficult for conductors. The ends of both the first and fourth movements of the Seventh Symphony are textbook examples. By pacing the ritardando just right, Jochum could make these endings work perfectly.

15 posted on 10/24/2005 5:46:00 PM PDT by Publius
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To: EveningStar

Ah, Bruckner.

He's the thinking man's Philip Glass.

17 posted on 10/24/2005 5:47:28 PM PDT by billorites (freepo ergo sum)
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To: EveningStar
I've been discovering the Mahler symphonies and they have been slowly growing on me but I look forward to checking out Bruckner. I hear patience is rewarded with his music as well.
18 posted on 10/24/2005 5:53:54 PM PDT by SamAdams76 (What Would Howard Roarke Do?)
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To: EveningStar
" Bruckner is not for everyone. Some are deeply drawn to him. Some are bored. And some are even reduced to hysterical laughter."

All of that is so true.

It is a short throw from the sublime to the maudlin to the ridiculous.

Bruckner covers it all. Not the easiest of 19th century composers, but really worth the effort.

The ninth, the eighth, the seventh and naught 00 symphonies are monumental and really grow on you.

Si vale la pena.

22 posted on 10/24/2005 5:59:58 PM PDT by billorites (freepo ergo sum)
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To: EveningStar

The critic's point about a great performance being necessary to appreciate Bruckner is right on the mark. Bruckner ("trumpeter") is above all the greatest composer for brass, ever, building on and surpassing Richard Wagner. Bruckner symphonies regularly feature Wagner tubas, and Bruckner was about the only composer to use them besides Wagner himself. I can tell you that playing in a full brass section belting out Bruckner is an ecstatic, transcendent experience. Here in the United States our premier brass sections have always been in the Cleveland and Chicago symphonies. In Europe it's any of the great Vienna orchestras of course, the Berliner Philharmonik, and the Concertgebouw Orchestra. These orchestras, and particularly their angelic brass sections, can be counted on to elevate the playing for most any conductor, and particularly those Germanics with a mystical connection to Bruckner. Viva Bruckner!


24 posted on 10/24/2005 8:30:47 PM PDT by Prod Convert (To sail beyond the sunset, and the baths of all the Western stars, until I die......)
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To: nickcarraway

seen this?


25 posted on 10/24/2005 11:21:01 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (Down with Dhimmicrats! I last updated my FR profile on Sunday, August 14, 2005.)
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To: EveningStar; SunkenCiv

When I worked in London, the building Bloomberg News was located in (City Gate House) had a plack saying that Anton Bruckner lived there. I don't know if many people noticed it, but I was happy to. So, I do have a connection to him.


26 posted on 10/24/2005 11:31:21 PM PDT by nickcarraway (I'm Only Alive, Because a Judge Hasn't Ruled I Should Die...)
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