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1 posted on 10/17/2005 12:22:36 PM PDT by Do Be
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To: Do Be

I've never heard of this learning center, but please keep in mind that someone is earning a comission on that fee that was quoted to you. They are using FUD (Fear, Uncertainty, Doubt)statements to get you to go with them, an unforunate common practice in high-pressure, business to consumer sales.


2 posted on 10/17/2005 12:28:52 PM PDT by Sam's Army (Intense and spicy, with a hint of sarcasm and a dry finish.)
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To: Do Be

Best to do it yourself Do Be, like your screen name. You have no question about YOUR motives.

HLC may be effective, but it is still, after all, a business. Businesses value profit over all else, including your child's future.


3 posted on 10/17/2005 12:29:38 PM PDT by wvobiwan (Liberal Slogan: "News maganizes don't kill people, Muslims do." - Ann Coulter)
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To: Do Be

Is homeschooling an option? Sometimes just the environment change can do wonders for a child. Not every kid is cut out to do well in a state-sponsored, pro-union setting.


4 posted on 10/17/2005 12:33:22 PM PDT by Sam's Army (Intense and spicy, with a hint of sarcasm and a dry finish.)
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To: Do Be
Check this link for some reviews of Huntington Learning Centers (I Googled them plus the word "rating" and came up with a lot of info)...

http://www.familyeducation.com/whatworks/review/index/0,2559,1-20622-11993,00.html
5 posted on 10/17/2005 12:55:30 PM PDT by Dark Skies (" For where your treasure is, there will your heart be also. " Matthew 6:21)
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To: Do Be
Did you ask what the learning center's methods are? After all from what I've read about learning centers they are populated by certified teachers. What makes their certified teachers different from district school teachers? If there are no major differences aren't they just tutoring your child? One on one tutoring could be done for a lot less than $10,000.

Have you contacted your local school district for their advice? Ask them if they would recommend the learning center. Good luck to both you and your child.

6 posted on 10/17/2005 1:01:48 PM PDT by asp1
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To: Do Be

I had experience with Sylvan Learning Center which I believe is similar. I enrolled my 6th grade son with them for MATH ONLY. We paid near 6000 for 108 hours. It worked.

I also got to know one of the instructers as due to my son being enrolled there I had an apartment for rent and he became one of our tenents.

I can not offer advice on all around subjects but just what I needed which was math. My son has had a complete turnaround. They pinpointed exactly where he was lost in math somewhere back in 2nd grade and began there. He did not approach a new skill until the last one was mastered. To me it was a complete success. He just started 8th grade and is doing pre -algebra on his own. : ))))

I wish we could have done this at home. We were at our wits end. Any attempt to have him due math turned into arguements and severe crying fits. My husband and I were at the end of the rope so to speak.

We did do most of the work over the summer. He either went 4- 6 hours per week at 2 hour sessions.

They also do a reward program.


Again I am only speaking for the one subject which we did MATH. I have no idea how an all around program would work.


7 posted on 10/17/2005 1:09:56 PM PDT by alisasny (Liberal UTOPIA rains down in New Orleans Way to go)
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To: Do Be
I don't know what your situation is, but this is my experience. I have a very, very bright son (now an adult). He failed often. It was very frustrating, because he knew what he had to know to pass tests, but never seemed to get it on paper, didn't turn in his homework, etc.

He thrived in a private school where teachers found a way to challenge him. Public schools are aimed at the middle of the road student. Since there is no mandate of law to see that a gifted, but unmotivated child has an education appropriate to his/her needs (unlike a handicapped child where such an education is mandated by law), you are on your own to find a solution.

He thrived in a school where the students each moved at their own pace through the coursework (now known in some areas as PACES). My son needed to move a lot faster than the average student in order to be engaged - he had virtually dropped out of school by the 2nd or 3rd week of the term, because he'd already read and absorbed the text books and then was simply bored silly for the rest of term.

The PACES program has also proven to be helpful for children with learning disabilities, attention disorders/issues, etc., because the child has more individualized attention and the teachers are not focused solely on moving 30 students through a course at a pre-prescribed pace.
8 posted on 10/17/2005 1:10:11 PM PDT by Roses0508 (Democracy does not guarantee equality of conditions - it only guarantees equality of opportunity.)
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To: Do Be; alisasny

I think the post by alisasny (#7) is very much on point, and gives a clue as to how you might fix the problem yourself. Nearly all schools have a fixed curriculum, and they keep moving the whole class along it, even if a few kids are totally lost. Their efforts, and unfortunately the efforts of a lot of outside turoring organizations too, are designed to get the child to earn passing grades in the onward-marching curriculum. Trouble is, that rarely translates into mastery or confidence on the part of the child.

The fifth-grader who is getting Ds or Fs in math or reading, may need to be focusing on 2nd grade level math or reading in order to build a foundation for mastery, but schools and tutors usually only back up a year or so in the curriculum, or else back up further but then rush the trip forward, in order to get the child's grades at the current grade level up to Cs or Bs.

I don't know the specifics of your child's situation, but I'd recommend asking yourself first, whether it matters if your child gets Fs. A school grading system's assessment of your child, is not necessarily the assessment scale you should focus on. Try sitting down with your child, and figuring out at what level his mastery actually is. If he's in 4th grade and his mastery level is kindergarten or 1st grade, fine. Start from there. And if your child is making progress at mastery, ignore the 4th grade Ds and Fs. What matters is if your child is mastering the next step from where he's starting. If he's mastered 1st grade level material, and then masters 2nd grade level material, he may still get Ds and Fs in 4th grade, but that doesn't matter. And you should make that clear to both school officials and your child. Make clear that you are the ultimate authority on your child's education. If the school is assigning mandatory homework and "projects" that aren't effective for your child's academic progress, tell the school point blank that he won't be doing the assignments and that they are not to criticize or chastize him for not turning them him. Have him spend homework time on the things he really needs to be doing.


20 posted on 10/18/2005 10:00:33 AM PDT by GovernmentShrinker
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To: Do Be

I worked for this company on the corporate level and can tell you that it is ALL about the money....if you enroll your child you can pay monthly for a minimum amount of hours per week (push for 3-4 hrs) and pay them monthly. They will have to refund any time you don’t use.


26 posted on 12/01/2008 12:31:22 PM PST by Sophiasawitch
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To: Do Be

I worked there for about a month. They tell you that your child’s education plan is “individualized according to your child’s needs...” The results of this are based on a diagnostic test they give your child to start. (Supposedly) I have looked at many programs and they are all extremely similar. They will have your kid in some combination of these “subjects” (Main Idea, Drawing Conclusions, Sequecing, CARS, Facts) Vocabulary for sure. Ask to see the program they create for your child. It will look pretty similar to the programs I listed. These things may help your child improve a standardized test score, but I don’t think it will help you with grades. Facts is basically rote memorization of facts that are irrelevent to school.

That being said, the math aspect of the program could be helpful. They are doing actual problems that are age appropriate.

There is also a kind of writing program that they might have you do. This can be helpful if your child is struggling with grammar. It does not teach students how to write a thesis statement, structure/organize essays or how to effectively use the various purposes of writing (ex. persuasive, narrative, and expository). In my teaching experience, these are common aspects of writing many students struggle with. It is also what grades are predominately based upon.

In my opinion, it is a big waste of money. They are going to recommend that your child spend over 100 hours in the program. Your money and your child’s time could be used to talk with the teacher and ask him or her what specifically your child is struggling with. Are assignments not being turned in? Are there aspects of writing your child is struggling with? Another thing is that the curriculum is in no way modified for students with learning disabilities. Is this the first year your child has been struggling? If your child has been struggling over the course of a few years, test for learning disabilities. Special Education classes and or an IEP will give your child the opportunity to be tested and evaluated. It will also ensure that your child recieves more individualized attention.

I do not know as much about your child’s specific academic problems as you do. However, Huntington is not helping your child with homework. A good portion of your income taxes pay teachers in public schools, so you already are paying for education. 100 hours of school work outside of school is going to improve grades. Huntington tries to make their tutoring sound magical. (It is far from it.)

If I was in your position, I would have a conference with all my child’s teachers and have them help you construct a plan to help your child be successful.

I think parents should have a clear understanding of what they’re getting for the money they’re paying. I hope this information can help you!


27 posted on 06/30/2009 9:10:56 PM PDT by Monica7630 (As a teacher who worked there briefly, I wouldn't recommend it.)
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To: Do Be

I can also tell you that very little of that money is going to us teachers.


28 posted on 06/30/2009 9:10:59 PM PDT by Monica7630 (As a teacher who worked there briefly, I wouldn't recommend it.)
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To: Do Be

We are on a limited budget ( as many families are) we signed up for a bit of a striped down version of the package that they wanted to sell us. They suggested some $2,400. for SAT prep. I let them know that was way more than we could afford. We agreed on aprox. $1,000. I recently received a bill for hundreds over what was agreed upon. I was in shock !! I asked them to look into it .. They took over a week to get back to me.They found a slight error and credited us for a pre-test that was complementary but had been bill out for $100. It still seamed off so..... I then asked for a line by line accounting of the fees.... They had padded hours on the sessions by billing us for time before my child even arrived ... a half hour here and there .. it adds up to HUNDREDS out of your pocket. The worst part of all of this is the fact that we have another SAT this weekend and with their bad billing we are out in the cold. Check your local Craig’s list you might find what you are looking for without the problems and more cost efficient.
Everyone should ask for their bills to be listed line by line. This allows you to track the time your child is actually receiving instruction.
Another friend of ours checked through her bill and found the charges for days the tutor had cancelled were not credited .....
Yes the tutoring does help but watch them on the $$$ Make sure you are getting all that you paid for.


30 posted on 12/01/2009 10:26:28 AM PST by Renomom (Check you bills)
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To: Do Be

When our son returned to 2nd grade after the summer, we were shocked to find out he dropped almost 1 year reading level. He struggled all year to catch up, and homework sessions were more like tutoring sessions for two to three hrs at night at home. So we thought it was a good idea to send him for a few hrs a week to the Huntington learning center second half of the summer between 2nd and 3rd grade. I had like an hour twice a week in mind. When we had him tested, he was tested for end of 3rd grade, even though he had not even started 3rd grade yet. He did OK, only his reading seemed to be a problem. Even other subjects, whenever it required to read instructions or word problems, he did not very well. When we were shown the suggested program, they suggested to send him 5 days a week during break and 3 days a week for 3 hrs a night after school started. I mentioned that the idea was to help my son and not to punish him and make it harder or spoil his summer. I received the speech about how we would see the results, and how we would set him up to fail if we don’t help him now. Still in sticker shock about the $8000 plan, I searched the web and bought “hooked on phonics”. When my son returned to school, he had completed one out of 4 modules, and this time skipped a whole grade reading level, and is now reading 5th grade books. For 6 month we have not heard from Huntington L. Ctr., and now we received a letter to pay the test fee, otherwise they would send the bill to the bill collector. I called, remembering I paid. I really don’t think he would have let me leave without paying ;). I was told our account did not show we paid. I had to get out my cancelled check from July. Wonder how many people they are trying to scam this way. All I can say is: spend some time with your child, or get a private tutor which many college students and new grad teachers offer to do. And if you should choose to go for the testing, save your receipt!


31 posted on 12/29/2009 8:24:19 PM PST by gearls
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To: Do Be
Huntington has been awesome!

One local center is consistently seeing tremendous results from the students who finish their program. They are not selling a “Magic Pill”; it takes time and commitment from the student, the parents, and the entire Huntington Staff.

This local Center is committed to helping kids succeed in school and they are getting the results with students of all ages.

They are also getting it done in the Exam Prep Program. One student went up 8 points on his ACT. They are consistently seeing 4-5-and 6 point increases on the ACT. The last 4 students who reported their SAT scores...had gone up 360 pts, 360 pts, 380 pts, and 420 pts!!!!

Several students have gained academic scholarship money, due to their hard work, commitment, and score increases.

In most cases it takes a lot of hours. They can't help the kids if the kids are not there. 100 hours at Huntington is the equal to approx. 12.5 days of school.

The majority of the Staff at the this local Center has all been there for over 8 months and several have been there over a year or longer!!!!

Simply put, this center is getting the results and they have helped a ton of kids!!!

32 posted on 03/05/2010 1:57:36 PM PST by UT123
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To: Do Be

Go to homeschooling sites and read reviews. There are some nice packages out there for 200 or less. Teaching Textbook comes to mind with computer DVDs works great uniil 7th grade


34 posted on 03/11/2010 3:45:16 PM PST by Chickensoup (We have the government we deserve. Is our government our traitor?)
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To: Do Be
Here's a website that lists Huntington Learning Center Testimonials. I hope this helps, or you can search on Yelp or Google Places.
36 posted on 07/29/2011 12:42:30 PM PDT by HLC
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To: Do Be

This huntington learning center of Canton is run so unprofessionally. If you seek help for math tutoring, and you are a high-school level student, they start you on second -third grade math level because that is the math comfort level of the manager. There is only one certified math teacher at the center who comes once a week and he won’t help you. It would take the student few months to advance to the high-school level math. By that time, they have made their money on the student and they claim that you established a solid foundation. Don’t waste your money at this center. Go to mathnasium if you need help with math.


38 posted on 05/19/2012 7:58:30 PM PDT by petite
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