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To: AzSteven
What is browncoat? And what was so great about the spikee, being the lamented leaf he was?

Also why no kids in movie? No families. Just burning swing-set. Sort of Brave New World sex and relationship-wise -- bunkum for that. "Reapers" or whatever they were called (rippers? reefers?) really dumb. How could they fly ships for being so out-of-grountrol nigh-of-living dead-ish? No personality, no character. Dumb.

Also space is B.I.G H..U..G..E. Yet the passage to one planet is blocked by a five acre junkyard of ships. Very non real.

Also 83 pound 17 year old girl is physically incapable -- I mean by plain simple physics of being the super-warrior she is made out to be. Especially as anemic as that one looks. Very non real.

Also burning incense-bomb? Silly.

Don't get angry with me.

68 posted on 10/02/2005 8:28:51 AM PDT by bvw
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To: bvw
What is browncoat? And what was so great about the spikee, being the lamented leaf he was?

Browncoats are the name for the rebel army from the Firefly/Serenity background, and the term has come to be used for fans of Firefly and Serenity, sort of like Trekker for Star Trek fans. The spikee (lovely adjective) was a much-loved member of the crew for many fans, and per the movie and TV-series background was one of the best independent pilots around. Luck is a finite resource. And really one of the two major elements of this movie is that luck has finally run out for the Serenity.

Also why no kids in movie? No families. Just burning swing-set. Sort of Brave New World sex and relationship-wise -- bunkum for that. "Reapers" or whatever they were called (rippers? reefers?) really dumb. How could they fly ships for being so out-of-grountrol nigh-of-living dead-ish? No personality, no character. Dumb.

There were kids and families in the film, just not in the ship (of course, Simon and River are a family, but that's a little different I suppose). Pay attention to the backgrounds on the world where the robbery occurs, and on Haven; lots of families there. The Reavers are a dramatic construct; remember, this is science fiction!. As for the views pro- and con- on sex in the Firefly universe I refer to another Freep thread currently going on: Bloggers are Browncoats

Also space is B.I.G H..U..G..E. Yet the passage to one planet is blocked by a five acre junkyard of ships. Very non real.

The Reaver fleet was occuplying a bit more than a few acres, but again, dramatic construct is what you have here. Whedon is more a story guy than a science guy (how else can you explain a single star system with 50+ planets and hundreds of moons, all of which can be terraformed and are close enough to the star to not freeze?)

Also 83 pound 17 year old girl is physically incapable -- I mean by plain simple physics of being the super-warrior she is made out to be. Especially as anemic as that one looks. Very non real. This one I very much need to disagree with. I have studied jiu-jitsu, tae-kwondo and karate, and I can promise you that small students regularly kick ass against much larger opponents. The important thing is focus and reaction time, and River was programmed to excel in both. They did a very good thing in picking a dancer (Summer Glau) to play that part - she moves like a well-trained student.

Compared to what? Lightsabers? Phasers? Black powder and flah-bangs have been around a long time - no reason to think they would have forgotten all about them by 2500 AD.

Don't get angry with me. No reason to be - its a movie. One man's entertainment is another man's crap. Me, I still cannot get why anyone liked Napoleon Dynamite..

70 posted on 10/02/2005 12:06:21 PM PDT by AzSteven
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To: bvw
Also why no kids in movie? No families. Just burning swing-set. Sort of Brave New World sex and relationship-wise -- bunkum for that.

I can't make heads nor tails of your fractured English, "Dadaesque" style prose. Try writing in complete sentences. No one likes to read Chinese fortune cookie style "critiques".

73 posted on 10/03/2005 9:38:00 PM PDT by Vast Buffalo Wing Conspiracy
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To: bvw
Also why no kids in movie?

You missed all the kids in River's class and the kids at Haven?

No families.

Actually family and love is at the core of this movie. Simon is ready to give up everything for love of his sister. She risks her life for him because in her confused mental state her love for her brother is the only thing that she still has to cling to.

80 posted on 10/04/2005 2:26:41 AM PDT by Harmless Teddy Bear (Machina improba! Vel mihi ede potum vel mihi redde nummos meos!)
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