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AMERICA - The Right Way!! (Day 1705) [Remember the Trade Center!!]
Various News Sources and FReepers | September 21, 2005 | All of Us

Posted on 09/21/2005 4:58:56 AM PDT by Chairman_December_19th_Society

We will not tire, we will not falter, and we will not fail!

Good morning!!

Do not let the victims of the attacks on New York and Washington, nor the brave members of our Nation's military who have given their lives to protect our freedom, die in vain!!

NEXT SERVICES 250 MILES

The sign above is actually located on the Dalton Highway (AK Route 11), just north of Coldfoot, AK. From that point northward, there's nothing in the way of creature comforts until you reach Prudhoe Bay--no rest rooms, no water, no restaurants, no fuel, no nothing.

It might as well have been posted along the Gulf coast after August 28, 2005. From Baton Rouge to east of Mobile, roughly 250 miles, and from New Orleans to Jackson, MS, roughly 200 miles, nothing much was available.

Indeed, the destruction wrought by KATRINA has already (!) become the most expensive natural disaster in American history--and the counting has not really started. Already the Congress has appropriated almost $70 billion in relief, and insurance companies estimate payouts in similar ranges. This does not account for infrastructure repairs, such as highways, railroads, electric and phone lines, and so on. So, excluding the infrastructure, we already have a bill of $150 billion. The totality of hurricane ANDREW, the previous benchmark for natural disasters in this country, was just shy of $100 billion. When the counting is done, KATRINA will likely top the quarter-trillion dollar figure.

The mind reels. Two hundred and fifty thousand million dollars. To put it in some kind of perspective, 100 dollar bills is roughly one inch high. Two hundred and fifty billion dollar bills would form a stack 39,457 miles high. In other words, the quantity of dollar bills to fix KATRINA's wrath would stretch about one-sixth of the way from Earth to the Moon.

As mentioned earlier, the triangle of destruction left by KATRINA also boggles the mind. Areas in the tens of thousands of square miles were worked over, and in many instances either obliterated beyond recognition, or flooded in ways that prevented easy access.

Yet, the view among many is that, somehow, the Federal Government is immune to the fundamental acts of nature; the central Government can, somehow, instantly appear on the scene and provide the relief and comfort to those that have been left wanting because of the storm. For a moment, let's set aside the fact that Government assistance in this way is a rather liberal notion, that was discussed in the last installment of this series, which may be found on thread number 1703. The question worth pondering is how fast is it reasonable to expect aid to reach the region?

In the first installment of this series, the legislative constraints working upon the Federal Government were explored, and the Stafford Act limitations of aid were discussed. The second installment looked at the differences in responses when you contrast the Republican and Democrat governors. This installment, the final in the series, will explore the damage to the infrastructure of the region and how aid could not have arrived any faster than it did.

Note earlier where it was mentioned that damage occurred in a region over tens of thousands of square miles. In fact, an area roughly the size of England was laid waste by KATRINA's winds and floods. People who live along the Gulf coast are routinely advised to prepare for hurricane season by laying in non-perishable stocks that would last them five days. The theory here is that by the end of that time, you would either have services restored or, at least, be able to travel to places that have had service restored and get essentials to restock.

It's been three weeks, and, guess what, you STILL in many instances cannot even drive to places where you can get food, get gasoline, or other essentials.

Well, that sort of blows the theory of personal disaster planning, as recommended to the local inhabitants of the South, to smithereens.

So, what to do? Clearly, this is an area where even the most die-hard conservative would agree there is a role for the central Government to get things going again, to begin the process of rebuilding and moving in basic supplies.

These basic supplies didn't just have to be rolled in to a few major cities--ANDREW, for example, required supplies in Miami and the Florida Keys, that's it. No, KATRINA required even fundamental items such as water to be moved into remote homes in wooded areas (remember, no electricty, no pumps for the wells). Supplies were pre-positioned outside of the areas likely to be hit by the storm and could be moved to these places. But, first, you had to get to these places.

National Guard units, the people providing the relief, literally found themselves cutting their way to the coast. Interstate highways, particularly in southern Mississippi, are not somehow immune to this--trees were down over Highway 59. Then there was the flooding and coastal damage. United States route 90 is literrally running along the bottom of the Gulf of Mexico in a number of places; the "Twin Span" that was Highway 10 was similarly dropped ungraciously into the waters of Lake Pontchatrain.

Progress of major relief was, therefore, agonizingly slow. Sure, you could fly planes into Moisant Field (the Louis Armstrong International Airport) in New Orleans, but where could you go from there? The Interstate was flooded once you reached Metarie. This meant, for the Crescent City, material had to be trucked down from Baton Rouge--which, if you cannot use Highway 10, takes about four hours in a passenger car. Military conveys are much slower.

But they don't just bring supplies for the affected people, in this instance supplies had to be brought for the troops themselves. Remember, no services for 250 miles. They had to bring their own fuel, their own porta potties, and their own food, let alone the rations for the general population.

But aren't there plans for these sorts of things? Well, sorta, kinda. Sure, there were the Hurricane Pam exercises that worked the issue of a major hurricane inundating New Orleans--not altogether unlike KATRINA--but that was a plan that had never had to meet the harsh aspects of reality. KATRINA, as pointed out earlier, is the biggest natural disaster to hit the United States since, well, ever. So much of what has been going on has been improvised, devised at the moment because there is no historical model upon which to draw.

Yet, in spite of this lack of historical input to the equation, relief supplies were, although slow, beginning to trickle into affected areas. Materiel was starting to arrive along the coast of Mississippi within two days following the storm, and, despite the hand-wringing going on in Baton Rouge, within three in New Orleans. Subtract from that the time it took to EVEN REACH those areas--a day's drive in Louisiana (the supplies were coming from Shreveport, in the northwest part of the state), and probably a day and a half in Mississippi (something not talked about much in the media), and "stuff" was starting to get to those who needed it rather quickly.

Now to quickly touch on the obvious question--couldn't supplies have been pre-positioned closer? Sure. Then they would have been destroyed by KATRINA and replacement items would have to be trucked in from much further away. As it is, the scale of the relief effort is resulting in that long-distance trucking, but at least it was AFTER regional pre-positioned materiel had been dispersed.

So between the requirement to engineer novel solutions for a disaster at a magnitude never faced in American history, and the need to literally cut or float your way to the devastated coastline, the response was actually pretty darn quick.

Was it good? No, and pretty much everyone admits that. It is important to strive to make improvements in these sorts of things, and the President has committed to such. But is it the right question to ask whether it was "good" or whether, considering the circumstances, was it "the best it could be". Well, there's enough evidence now to show the Federal response probably wasn't the "best," but there's also an overwhelming amount that shows it was "pretty darn good."

So it's time to stop bellyachinig about the paucity of the Federal response and time to set about fixing the Gulf Coast.

For AMERICA - The Right Way, I remain yours in the Cause, the Chairman.


TOPICS: AMERICA - The Right Way!!
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To: kassie

I picked up on the rush to the grocery stores in the Houston area yesterday afternoon when I checked this site.

It's unreal. Especially hearing that some gas stations are closed already.

How close or far away from Galveston are you?

I topped off my gas tank yesterday afternoon - gas was $2.64 then.

Before Rita was a threat, we were planning on traveling to Burnet County this Friday - now I dont know.


41 posted on 09/21/2005 6:36:17 AM PDT by texianyankee
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To: Peach

Nope, thank goodness. Freepmail coming your way in a minute.


42 posted on 09/21/2005 6:41:02 AM PDT by prairiebreeze (Judge Roberts will soon be Chief Justice Roberts. The RATS lose again.)
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To: kassie

freepmail coming your way


43 posted on 09/21/2005 6:42:09 AM PDT by prairiebreeze (Judge Roberts will soon be Chief Justice Roberts. The RATS lose again.)
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To: Chairman_December_19th_Society
Chair, you ought to see the Hispanics working here with the storm aftermath, a flood gate was opened and they came in droves, legal of not they are here. BUT, every hand counts with all the destruction we got.
44 posted on 09/21/2005 6:46:36 AM PDT by gulfcoast6
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To: prairiebreeze

Back to you.
:)


45 posted on 09/21/2005 6:55:59 AM PDT by kassie
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To: texianyankee

Ok this may be a double post, I hit post,but nothing happened.

We are 45 miles straight north of Freeport. We are in Fort Bend County, right off Hwy 6.


46 posted on 09/21/2005 6:59:07 AM PDT by kassie
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To: Miss Marple
I tell you, people like that are why I don't recommend this site to most people. Reading a few threads full of those nutcases would make a newbie think they had signed on to a forum full of mental cases.
I read only a few threads on this forum and I don't recommend this site to most people. Some of the viciousness here is unbelievable. If these are conservatives no wonder people think we are nuts.
On the other hand threads like ATRW, and the Daily Dose keep this at the top of my bookmarks. It's not my main page anymore but I visit a couple of threads daily.
47 posted on 09/21/2005 7:14:17 AM PDT by Not gonna take it anymore
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To: Chairman_December_19th_Society; Miss Marple; Dog; All

The Able Danger hearing can be listened to online right now - C-Span 3.

Weldon has confirmed what we thought all along. The Able Danger information found information through Open Sources, so it is difficult for the Pentagon or anyone to claim that this hearing endangers national security.



48 posted on 09/21/2005 7:20:23 AM PDT by Peach (South Carolina is praying for our Gulf coast citizens.)
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To: Iowa Granny

LOL!

Knew you'd like that.

Yes, I followed Dog, W, and your comments yesterday......After Dog's initial post re: "big beers," I'm the one who first mentioned that the tart would probably experience sore knees later in life.

Thanks for the belly laughs. We need those these days!


49 posted on 09/21/2005 7:23:11 AM PDT by LBKQ (Positive perceptions require good PR. Hello?)
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To: Peach

I think the really good software that preforms that task is very expensive. It's been around for a while and called assistive technology. It was originally developed for the handicapped. Now, not being able to tyoe on FR is a handicap in my book!


50 posted on 09/21/2005 7:44:08 AM PDT by Holding Our Breath
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To: gulfcoast6

Toby,

So sorry you're having a "down" day. Please remember how many of us here love you and are praying daily for you & yours.

(((Toby)))

51 posted on 09/21/2005 7:49:40 AM PDT by MozartLover ( My son, my soldier, my hero. Protect him, Lord, wherever he goes, and keep him strong.)
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To: Chairman_December_19th_Society

Over my dead body!!!!

There's plenty of homegrown displaced folks without making a "special" illegal Katrina group.


52 posted on 09/21/2005 8:12:15 AM PDT by ABG(anybody but Gore) (This tagline is under remodeling, thank you for your patience...)
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To: Chairman_December_19th_Society

Superb opening, thank you!


53 posted on 09/21/2005 8:32:20 AM PDT by alwaysconservative (You're just jealous because the voices talk only to ME.)
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To: All
The article title pretty much sums it up...

China Marketing 'Clinton,' 'Lewinsky' Condoms

54 posted on 09/21/2005 8:40:51 AM PDT by Chairman_December_19th_Society (Conservatives work to get the job done while liberals work to get someone else to get the job done.)
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To: Chairman_December_19th_Society

I'm dragging my sick body out to get a hair cut. You/ve upset my stomach enough for one day! ;^)


55 posted on 09/21/2005 9:03:50 AM PDT by ABG(anybody but Gore) (This tagline is under remodeling, thank you for your patience...)
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To: gulfcoast6

PawPaw, thanks again for the offer. But they are telling all in Fort Bend to stay put. So I guess we will do that.

We are 45 miles north of Freeport. They say we are on the strong side of the hurricane and will get the strongest winds.

Please pray for NO tornadoes to hit near us. Don't know how strong our roof is!


We have our camp stove, plenty of fuel, camping lanterns with plenty of fuel. Plenty of water (I hope) and plenty of food.

NeeNee and her family are headed for Dallas. Please say a prayer for their safety too.


56 posted on 09/21/2005 9:20:57 AM PDT by kassie
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To: Molly Pitcher

Great articles, Molly, and thank you!


57 posted on 09/21/2005 9:24:28 AM PDT by alwaysconservative (You're just jealous because the voices talk only to ME.)
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To: ABG(anybody but Gore); Dog; All
ANOTHER ACT OF SABOTAGE TO UNITED STATES DEFENSES BY THE 42ND PRESIDENT REVEALED...

The People's Liberation Army Air Force has converted a Boeing 737-100, tail number B-4052, from a civilian air liner to a military command aircraft capable of directing forces from the air.

This, and nine other 737-100s, were allowed to be sold to China in 2000 by the UOx42 Administration. The purchaser was China United Airlines, who were to operate these craft as VIP and military troop transports.

As early as 1994, however, the UOx42 Administration KNEW that China United Airlines was a business wholly owned and operated by the PLA Air Force.

U.S. Plane Now Part of Chinese Air Force

So why buy the rope when your enemy will gladly provide the noose with which to hang himself?

58 posted on 09/21/2005 9:25:02 AM PDT by Chairman_December_19th_Society (Conservatives work to get the job done while liberals work to get someone else to get the job done.)
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To: Dog

Tagline change


59 posted on 09/21/2005 9:27:25 AM PDT by Jemian (Don't get stuck on stupid. ~ Gen. Honore)
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To: Chairman_December_19th_Society

OMG These revelations just keep coming. Dare I hope that x42 and his fabled legacy will be pilloried in our lifetime and recorded in the history books?


60 posted on 09/21/2005 9:48:58 AM PDT by Carolinamom (Life is a journey, not a destination.)
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