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AMERICA - The Right Way!! (Day 1705) [Remember the Trade Center!!]
Various News Sources and FReepers | September 21, 2005 | All of Us

Posted on 09/21/2005 4:58:56 AM PDT by Chairman_December_19th_Society

We will not tire, we will not falter, and we will not fail!

Good morning!!

Do not let the victims of the attacks on New York and Washington, nor the brave members of our Nation's military who have given their lives to protect our freedom, die in vain!!

NEXT SERVICES 250 MILES

The sign above is actually located on the Dalton Highway (AK Route 11), just north of Coldfoot, AK. From that point northward, there's nothing in the way of creature comforts until you reach Prudhoe Bay--no rest rooms, no water, no restaurants, no fuel, no nothing.

It might as well have been posted along the Gulf coast after August 28, 2005. From Baton Rouge to east of Mobile, roughly 250 miles, and from New Orleans to Jackson, MS, roughly 200 miles, nothing much was available.

Indeed, the destruction wrought by KATRINA has already (!) become the most expensive natural disaster in American history--and the counting has not really started. Already the Congress has appropriated almost $70 billion in relief, and insurance companies estimate payouts in similar ranges. This does not account for infrastructure repairs, such as highways, railroads, electric and phone lines, and so on. So, excluding the infrastructure, we already have a bill of $150 billion. The totality of hurricane ANDREW, the previous benchmark for natural disasters in this country, was just shy of $100 billion. When the counting is done, KATRINA will likely top the quarter-trillion dollar figure.

The mind reels. Two hundred and fifty thousand million dollars. To put it in some kind of perspective, 100 dollar bills is roughly one inch high. Two hundred and fifty billion dollar bills would form a stack 39,457 miles high. In other words, the quantity of dollar bills to fix KATRINA's wrath would stretch about one-sixth of the way from Earth to the Moon.

As mentioned earlier, the triangle of destruction left by KATRINA also boggles the mind. Areas in the tens of thousands of square miles were worked over, and in many instances either obliterated beyond recognition, or flooded in ways that prevented easy access.

Yet, the view among many is that, somehow, the Federal Government is immune to the fundamental acts of nature; the central Government can, somehow, instantly appear on the scene and provide the relief and comfort to those that have been left wanting because of the storm. For a moment, let's set aside the fact that Government assistance in this way is a rather liberal notion, that was discussed in the last installment of this series, which may be found on thread number 1703. The question worth pondering is how fast is it reasonable to expect aid to reach the region?

In the first installment of this series, the legislative constraints working upon the Federal Government were explored, and the Stafford Act limitations of aid were discussed. The second installment looked at the differences in responses when you contrast the Republican and Democrat governors. This installment, the final in the series, will explore the damage to the infrastructure of the region and how aid could not have arrived any faster than it did.

Note earlier where it was mentioned that damage occurred in a region over tens of thousands of square miles. In fact, an area roughly the size of England was laid waste by KATRINA's winds and floods. People who live along the Gulf coast are routinely advised to prepare for hurricane season by laying in non-perishable stocks that would last them five days. The theory here is that by the end of that time, you would either have services restored or, at least, be able to travel to places that have had service restored and get essentials to restock.

It's been three weeks, and, guess what, you STILL in many instances cannot even drive to places where you can get food, get gasoline, or other essentials.

Well, that sort of blows the theory of personal disaster planning, as recommended to the local inhabitants of the South, to smithereens.

So, what to do? Clearly, this is an area where even the most die-hard conservative would agree there is a role for the central Government to get things going again, to begin the process of rebuilding and moving in basic supplies.

These basic supplies didn't just have to be rolled in to a few major cities--ANDREW, for example, required supplies in Miami and the Florida Keys, that's it. No, KATRINA required even fundamental items such as water to be moved into remote homes in wooded areas (remember, no electricty, no pumps for the wells). Supplies were pre-positioned outside of the areas likely to be hit by the storm and could be moved to these places. But, first, you had to get to these places.

National Guard units, the people providing the relief, literally found themselves cutting their way to the coast. Interstate highways, particularly in southern Mississippi, are not somehow immune to this--trees were down over Highway 59. Then there was the flooding and coastal damage. United States route 90 is literrally running along the bottom of the Gulf of Mexico in a number of places; the "Twin Span" that was Highway 10 was similarly dropped ungraciously into the waters of Lake Pontchatrain.

Progress of major relief was, therefore, agonizingly slow. Sure, you could fly planes into Moisant Field (the Louis Armstrong International Airport) in New Orleans, but where could you go from there? The Interstate was flooded once you reached Metarie. This meant, for the Crescent City, material had to be trucked down from Baton Rouge--which, if you cannot use Highway 10, takes about four hours in a passenger car. Military conveys are much slower.

But they don't just bring supplies for the affected people, in this instance supplies had to be brought for the troops themselves. Remember, no services for 250 miles. They had to bring their own fuel, their own porta potties, and their own food, let alone the rations for the general population.

But aren't there plans for these sorts of things? Well, sorta, kinda. Sure, there were the Hurricane Pam exercises that worked the issue of a major hurricane inundating New Orleans--not altogether unlike KATRINA--but that was a plan that had never had to meet the harsh aspects of reality. KATRINA, as pointed out earlier, is the biggest natural disaster to hit the United States since, well, ever. So much of what has been going on has been improvised, devised at the moment because there is no historical model upon which to draw.

Yet, in spite of this lack of historical input to the equation, relief supplies were, although slow, beginning to trickle into affected areas. Materiel was starting to arrive along the coast of Mississippi within two days following the storm, and, despite the hand-wringing going on in Baton Rouge, within three in New Orleans. Subtract from that the time it took to EVEN REACH those areas--a day's drive in Louisiana (the supplies were coming from Shreveport, in the northwest part of the state), and probably a day and a half in Mississippi (something not talked about much in the media), and "stuff" was starting to get to those who needed it rather quickly.

Now to quickly touch on the obvious question--couldn't supplies have been pre-positioned closer? Sure. Then they would have been destroyed by KATRINA and replacement items would have to be trucked in from much further away. As it is, the scale of the relief effort is resulting in that long-distance trucking, but at least it was AFTER regional pre-positioned materiel had been dispersed.

So between the requirement to engineer novel solutions for a disaster at a magnitude never faced in American history, and the need to literally cut or float your way to the devastated coastline, the response was actually pretty darn quick.

Was it good? No, and pretty much everyone admits that. It is important to strive to make improvements in these sorts of things, and the President has committed to such. But is it the right question to ask whether it was "good" or whether, considering the circumstances, was it "the best it could be". Well, there's enough evidence now to show the Federal response probably wasn't the "best," but there's also an overwhelming amount that shows it was "pretty darn good."

So it's time to stop bellyachinig about the paucity of the Federal response and time to set about fixing the Gulf Coast.

For AMERICA - The Right Way, I remain yours in the Cause, the Chairman.


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To: Peach
You probably won't be able to type for a while, is that right?

Certainly not with my right hand. I'll do some limited stuff with my left hand. But it's safe to say you won't be reading many complete sentences out of me for 3 or 4 weeks.

21 posted on 09/21/2005 5:33:49 AM PDT by Iowa Granny (I am not the sharpest pin in the cushion but I can draw blood.)
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To: Neets

Yeah - we watched it last night. I wouldnt exactly characterize it as a great game - just a great victory.

We get MLB-TV - so we are able to watch most of the games. However last night our internet went down from the 2nd inning until about the 8th - so we missed Sheff's grand slam.

Concerning great games - the game where Crosby hit the walk off homer was a great game. I was so glad for him.


22 posted on 09/21/2005 5:35:07 AM PDT by texianyankee
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To: Miss Marple

Some of these Pat Buchananites make me nostalgic for A+Bert. At least he was funny. The rest of these clowns have no sense of humor.


23 posted on 09/21/2005 5:35:46 AM PDT by ABG(anybody but Gore) (This tagline is under remodeling, thank you for your patience...)
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To: Molly Pitcher
Just follow the PT rules

Oh, I intend to do just that. I don't want any lingering problems when this is over. That's why I've been scurrying around getting every possible task done before I go.

24 posted on 09/21/2005 5:35:58 AM PDT by Iowa Granny (I am not the sharpest pin in the cushion but I can draw blood.)
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To: Neets

BTW - I was really hoping that the D'Rays could jump all over Schilling so we could move into first place.

At least we are tied in the loss column with the bosux and indians - so we just gotta keep winning.......(easy for me to say)


25 posted on 09/21/2005 5:37:52 AM PDT by texianyankee
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To: LBKQ

Pack up your windex bottle, get in your car and head W. on I-80. At the jct of hwy 218 & I-80 go South 20 miles.

You, my dear, owe me an indepth Screen Cleaning.

Clearly you read last night's exchange between Dog, W. & me.


26 posted on 09/21/2005 5:40:13 AM PDT by Iowa Granny (I am not the sharpest pin in the cushion but I can draw blood.)
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To: Iowa Granny; Neets
You just reminded me: within hours of my Nov. '01 wrist op, I was FReeping!! one handed or not....nothing would stop me!!

Oh yes, one more thing...Keeping it propped in the early hours is KEY to less swelling!!!

27 posted on 09/21/2005 5:42:52 AM PDT by Molly Pitcher (We are Americans...the sons and daughters of liberty...*.from FReeper the Real fifi*))
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To: ABG(anybody but Gore)
down to 102

YIKES!!

28 posted on 09/21/2005 5:44:27 AM PDT by Molly Pitcher (We are Americans...the sons and daughters of liberty...*.from FReeper the Real fifi*))
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To: Iowa Granny

There is some software that types as you talk, but I don't think it's very good yet. My parents have it and we've never gotten it to the point where it will really do a good job.


29 posted on 09/21/2005 5:45:42 AM PDT by Peach (South Carolina is praying for our Gulf coast citizens.)
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To: Chairman_December_19th_Society
A GOOD A.M. TO YOU HONORABLE CHAIR, TO ALL FROM THE BATTERED, BRUISED GULF COAST OF MISSISSIPPI, AND A NEW DAY IS COMING!

Kassie, looks like the storm is heading your way, take care, be safe and my home is open to you all if you need to head this way. We will MAKE room for you.

I hit a low spot last night, felt like nothing is getting done, looked as if no end is in sight, traffic is terrible, WalllMart is crowded, no place to go out and eat, yet. NO DISH!! You have no idea how one fells if FORCED to watch ABC, the only station we can get. Then I think of the new days coming, all this will be behind us and we will sit around a talk about the 'old times'.

But, I look out my window and see the sun shinning thru the trees, no wind, ever so hot, 97 today, house full of SI L's kin, babies crying, old men sitting around (including me) telling 'war stories', me bored stiff yet, ever so thankful to be on this old earth with my family, my heart, and the first love of my life, my Allie and I think, 'things ain't so bad after all'.

Goat ot go to the shop in town and get SIL'S car today, broke down and he needs it (not really, my car is at his 'beck and call'. He is learning to do that adjusting thing pretty good now and tells me that he sees so many sad claims, entire households gone, nothing.Grown men standing with hat in hand with tears asking 'what am I to do now'.

I sure thank you that have sent me apple receipts, they look good, D is going to print them out and put them in her book and fix some apples just real soon. Now, one that I learned I want to pass it on to YOU, Peanut butter, Melt some in a pot and pour it over ice cream, talking about good. We got lots of peanut butter here now, jars and jars and jars of the stuff, the church gave it to us.

Some days it is hard to get motivated, today in one of them for me, maybe thing will change to perk me up later but right now down, down, down.\

I can't go a day without telling you how much each of you mean to me, we talk back and forth, miles and miles apart but really next door to each other and it goes to show you, this world ain't so big after all.

I am off to I don't know where, check on my chickens, feed them, water them and, maybe talk to them but I can tell you ole Bill is happy, he has 19 hens now.

Have a good and safe day. Toby
30 posted on 09/21/2005 5:59:48 AM PDT by gulfcoast6
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To: Molly Pitcher

Now I know what the problem with is, I HAVE THE CRUDES! It seems it is going around from what I am reading here of FR.


31 posted on 09/21/2005 6:03:45 AM PDT by gulfcoast6
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To: Chairman_December_19th_Society; Molly Pitcher; kassie; Peach; Iowa Granny; All
But, first, you had to get to these places.

Ding-ding-ding! Exactly right, but apparently beyond the scope of understanding of the left. Evidently they operate in Star Trek reality and expect the Feds to be able to beam supplies out to the boonies. (rolling eyes)

Good morning everybody! I have high speed internet again, YAY!

I had the most remarkable conversation last night with some folks we had dinner with. They were telling us about a group of German Mennonites who years ago left Canada and immigrated to Mexico and set up their colonies. Now, their colonies have become so large there, that they can't support themselves and are immigrating (mostly illegally) here. (I'm still wrapping my mind around German Mennonites settling in Mexico, but they did.) The children are often afraid of police officers here because they were taught to avoid the Mexican Federales.

We have seen these folks around this town where we currently are visiting. They wear the traditional dress and speak German. The children are extremely well behaved in public. They attend school, except the girls are only allowed to attend through 5th grade and then made to stay home and learn housekeeping. Often, as teenagers they are working cleaning houses or mowing lawns to earn income for the family.

Guess I never realized that we had German Memmonite illegals coming across from Mexico....! We were told they tend to move on about every three years as that's the time frame that the INS tends to catch up with them.

32 posted on 09/21/2005 6:06:22 AM PDT by prairiebreeze (Judge Roberts will soon be Chief Justice Roberts. The RATS lose again.)
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To: Molly Pitcher
Are Libs from another planet?

I haven't yet read this article, but having spent the last couple of weeks surrounded by them I can answer with a loud and unqualified, YES!

Sheesh, I never heard such idiotic theories in my life. And I don't want to even mention religion around them. Some of what they think made my hair stand on end....

33 posted on 09/21/2005 6:09:22 AM PDT by prairiebreeze (Judge Roberts will soon be Chief Justice Roberts. The RATS lose again.)
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To: gulfcoast6

I'm sure you're so pleased with Ole Bill, he's become quite the voyager.

We all can remember when you were worried he wouldn't figure it all out,, or perhaps that he wasn't interested in the ladies at all.

And now, I must back away from the computer and make today count. bbl


34 posted on 09/21/2005 6:09:46 AM PDT by Iowa Granny (I am not the sharpest pin in the cushion but I can draw blood.)
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To: prairiebreeze

German Menonnites in Mexico? It really is becoming one big ole world, isn't it?

Congratulations on your high speed access today. We needed a new mouse last week and bought a wirless mouse, but it's not working properly. I can barely control it and will be returning it today.

If anyone has suggestions regarding what kind of mouse to buy, it would be appreciated.


35 posted on 09/21/2005 6:14:33 AM PDT by Peach (South Carolina is praying for our Gulf coast citizens.)
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To: prairiebreeze

PS. You aren't anywhere near where Hurricane Rita, Category 4, is expected to hit, are you?


36 posted on 09/21/2005 6:15:06 AM PDT by Peach (South Carolina is praying for our Gulf coast citizens.)
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To: Peach; All
LIBERAL GROUP WANTS SPECIAL STATUS FOR ILLEGAL ALIENS "DISPLACED" BY KATRINA
37 posted on 09/21/2005 6:23:51 AM PDT by Chairman_December_19th_Society (Conservatives work to get the job done while liberals work to get someone else to get the job done.)
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To: Chairman_December_19th_Society

Since the government has already set precedent as having to educate the children of illegals, pay their medical care, etc., why are we surprised to hear they want special status for those displaced by Katrina?

They already have special status. Americans don't receive free health care or college tuition. It's a dangerous road we've embarked on, and I don't see an end in sight.


38 posted on 09/21/2005 6:28:39 AM PDT by Peach (South Carolina is praying for our Gulf coast citizens.)
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To: Chairman_December_19th_Society

Since the government has already set precedent as having to educate the children of illegals, pay their medical care, etc., why are we surprised to hear they want special status for those displaced by Katrina?

They already have special status. Americans don't receive free health care or college tuition. It's a dangerous road we've embarked on, and I don't see an end in sight.


39 posted on 09/21/2005 6:28:40 AM PDT by Peach (South Carolina is praying for our Gulf coast citizens.)
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To: texianyankee

Good morning.

Hunkering down. Just got back from Wal-Mart. Not much left, but I did manage to get a 30 gallon garbage can to store more water in.

Drove past 3 gas stations closed !


40 posted on 09/21/2005 6:30:39 AM PDT by kassie
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