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Is there a psychiatrist in the house ? ( Need some advice for fellow teacher )

Posted on 09/14/2005 5:51:16 PM PDT by sushiman

I believe one of the English teachers with whom I team-teach has some sort of mental disorder/illness . He is contantly talking to himself ; has become very forgetful ; is sometimes guilty of incoherent speech ( in both English and Japanese ) ; and laughs at things for no apparent reason . He is only 28 years old . I've spoken with the principal , and the school nurse , but nobody is about to confront him about the problem ( cultural thing ) yet . Yesterday I suggested that he seek counseling . I doubt that he will . Anybody have any advice , or an idea what might be wrong with him ? Schizophrenia case ? Any info ( no jokes please ) appreciated .


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1 posted on 09/14/2005 5:51:19 PM PDT by sushiman
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To: sushiman
Possible substance abuse problem.

Can the school shepherd him to a medical doctor for a "fitness for duty" examination?
2 posted on 09/14/2005 5:53:56 PM PDT by BenLurkin (O beautiful for patriot dream - that sees beyond the years)
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To: sushiman

I'm not a Dr... but I've seen schizophrenics act like this.


3 posted on 09/14/2005 5:54:45 PM PDT by LaineyDee (Don't mess with Texas wimmen!)
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To: sushiman

Two distinct possibilities only from the description of the symptoms:
/1. schizophrenia
2. drug use

At this point, I would go to the Board of education and talk to the Director of Counseling for the school system. Hopefully, they will be able to evaluate the situation.
Good luck.


4 posted on 09/14/2005 5:54:47 PM PDT by Recovering Ex-hippie (I'm sick of Oprah!)
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To: sushiman

Well, the principal is scared that she could be sued, if the Board of Ed is told and acts, they could be sued. They never think of the effect it has on the children and the teacher himself. You realize he may not be aware of his actions. Not to gang up on him... get someone else you trust at work and engage him in a conversation, where the other person (if he displays these behaviors), can comment... in passing, where as you can remind him that you asked him about it before and has he seen anyone yet. Be prepared to have Names, addresses and phone numbers on hand to give to him... and tell him to just think about it.


5 posted on 09/14/2005 5:58:48 PM PDT by AliVeritas (Ignorance is a condition. Stupidity is a strategy.)
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To: sushiman

I've known a lot of people who are constantly talking to themselves, I worked with one guy who carried on some pretty bizarre and lengthy discourses. Has this guy been like this the whole time you've known him, or is this a sudden change? If it's something new you are right to be concerned. More than once I've seen severe mental illness come over people extremely rapidly, and seemingly out of the blue, even if in hindsight one could see some underlying causes.

Good luck to you with this. If it's really mental illness that is the worst.


6 posted on 09/14/2005 5:59:04 PM PDT by jocon307
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I know this is not a new idea on this thread, but it sounds like schizophrenia and/or drug abuse. Is there a way you can contact the school board about this person's strange behavior? Good luck to you (and to him), it's a difficult situation for all.


7 posted on 09/14/2005 6:02:43 PM PDT by PilloryHillary
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To: sushiman
In all honesty, I share some similarities with this individual. While in high school, I was diagnosed with OCD and panic disorder. Talking to oneself (out loud, albeit quietly) could certainly be but one primary facet of OCD.

I'm doubting bipolar or schizophrenia, although without more information it's hard to say.
8 posted on 09/14/2005 6:02:57 PM PDT by jdm
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I know somebody a LOT like that. A co-worker of mine as well. Isn't he? Yes, he is... He's had ths smthms 4a lnnnngtm ne23... vraiment... hahahahhaahahhaha...

...now, um, what exactly was I saying?


9 posted on 09/14/2005 6:03:31 PM PDT by Luke Skyfreeper
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To: sushiman

Some of those symptoms are side effects of the use of anti-depressants and/or anti-anxiety meds.


10 posted on 09/14/2005 6:04:14 PM PDT by uncitizen
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usually they will make the problem better, not worse


11 posted on 09/14/2005 6:05:30 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (No wonder the Southern Baptist Church threw Greer out: Only one god per church! [Ann Coulter])
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To: sushiman

Sounds like a woman I work with who does that when her blood sugar is very low...we know then to tell her to eat a piece of candy


12 posted on 09/14/2005 6:06:18 PM PDT by Jewels1091
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To: AliVeritas
Well, the principal is scared that she could be sued, if the Board of Ed is told and acts, they could be sued.

This is going on in Japan, as I gather. Whole 'nother ball game. The challenge is to address the problem while saving face for everyone involved.

13 posted on 09/14/2005 6:06:32 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (No wonder the Southern Baptist Church threw Greer out: Only one god per church! [Ann Coulter])
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You're in Japan, ne?

muzukashii desu nee . . .

boku, shinrigaku o yoku naratta ...

For your own safety, do not confront or rationalize with him. It might help to laugh along with him etc. Believe that he actually hears voices and is talking to someone else.

A rule of thumb I always follow is: never tell a kichigai person that they are kichigai.





14 posted on 09/14/2005 6:07:21 PM PDT by miyamoto
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I've been like that for years, but I'm rich, so everyone loves me and calls me eccentric.

Turn him in to Big Brother, for his own good.


15 posted on 09/14/2005 6:07:35 PM PDT by the gillman@blacklagoon.com (North American Community. What's yours is theirs.)
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To: BenLurkin; jocon307

I seriously doubt that he is " on " anything " . The change has been gradual , starting about 6-8 months ago . He did have a very stressful first year here last year which may have contributed to the current problem .


16 posted on 09/14/2005 6:08:42 PM PDT by sushiman
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I talk to myself all the time when no one is listening. It's called marriage.


17 posted on 09/14/2005 6:08:55 PM PDT by Kiss Me Hardy
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To: sushiman

I work as an RD in a psychiatric hospital and most of our clients are schizophrenic....and his behavior sounds similar.

Unless he's willing to go to a Dr., the only way to get him help is if he threatens to hurt himself or someone else.

Do you know any of his family or close friends?


18 posted on 09/14/2005 6:09:04 PM PDT by najida (So, I said to myself -Self, I really think shrimp heads in the flower pots as compost is a bit much!)
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To: uncitizen

I've taken some of those meds like depakote. You lose your hair, gain weight, become comotose, sexual side effects. Those drugs will make you go from slightly abnormal and functioning to really being depressed.


19 posted on 09/14/2005 6:09:06 PM PDT by johnmecainrino
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To: sushiman

Can he spell? Does he have half a brain? Is he a good teacher? If so, leave him alone.

My daughter misspelled Condoleezza today by spelling it "C-o-n-d-o-l-e-e-z-z-a" on a test where the question was "Who is the current Secretary of the State of the United States?". I kid you not, she is writing Condoleezza Rice twenty times as I type. Only problem is that she has to spell it as "C-o-n-d-a-l-i-s-a". What can I say? She wanted to try high school instead of home school this year.


20 posted on 09/14/2005 6:09:24 PM PDT by publana
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