I guess that's what I ride (in naked form) these days. ;)
Posted on 09/04/2005 12:46:02 PM PDT by martin_fierro
Teenager dies after crashing new motorcycle
A Cooper City teenager died Saturday when his motorcycle crashed in Davie.
Stephen Brown, 19, was riding his brand new Honda motorcycle west on Stirling Road near University Drive about 12:45 p.m. when he lost control of it.
Brown tried to straighten out the bike, but he overcompensated and was thrown into the eastbound lanes. He died at the scene, said Davie police Lt. Bill Bamford.
Witnesses told police Brown was speeding and weaving in and out of traffic before the accident, Bamford said. A helmet was found at the scene, but police said they did not believe Brown was wearing it when the crash occurred.
After the motorcycle skidded into the eastbound lanes, drivers of two nearby cars tried to avoid hitting it and got into an accident themselves.
No one was hurt in that crash.
It's another word for crotchrocket. Hayabusas and the like.
I guess that's what I ride (in naked form) these days. ;)
I don't know where your bike ranks in accident data to be honest. However, as a whole, squid bikes, despite your lauding them as "unbreakable, maneuverable, quick stopping, great value bikes" are indeed overrepresented in accident data. There is no way aroudn that one. There is a reason why it's not unusual for the insurance payment on a squid bike to be higher than the bike payment itself.
My SV650 costs me a lot less $$ for insurance a year than my Sportster did.
I pay $305.00 @ year for full coverage ~ what does your Harley cost you @ year?
I was just stating facts about motorcycles, I've owned my different makes and models, both street and dirt.
I've been riding 57 years, how many years have you been riding?
Who cares about accident data, that has nothing to do the bike, accidents are about rider control: knowing the bike and knowing your ability.
Does it make make feel more like a man to denigrate another person's motorcycle choice ~ that's a pity.
PS I checked Google on motorcycle accidents and so no mention of squid bikes ~ are you sure that haven't been hitting the cooking sherry a little early??? ;)
It helps greatly to take a motorcycle safety course. My brother-in-law decided about 8 years ago to get back into motorcycles after a 25 year hiatus. His first bike was a Harley and a few years later a BMW ... he tells me the motorcycle safety course was very helpful as a review ... and taught him new preventative measures, some counter intuitive, that can be very beneficial if an emergency situation arises. My brother-in-law is a senior captain with a major airline and feels strongly about mitigating the risk factor.
Almost identical. I pay $312 a year for full coverage.
I was just stating facts about motorcycles, I've owned my different makes and models, both street and dirt.
Me too. I can barely count the motorcycles I've owned.
I've been riding 57 years, how many years have you been riding?
You've got me beat by a long shot. I've only been riding 35 of my 42 years. My first bike was a Honda 50, that my father bought me when I was 6 years old.
PS I checked Google on motorcycle accidents and so no mention of squid bikes
Squid is slang, and you know it. I quickly googled in the mere moments that I've spent on this reply and instantly learned that according to Manitoba Insurance, Sport bikes make up 16% of the motorcycle pool, yet account for 47% of claims.
Progressive, the third-largest insurer of vehicles in the U.S and one of the largest motorcycle insurers, concerning a study of loss rates for different types of motorcycles. It looked at claims data from more than two million motorcycle policies. The study confirmed what most of us suspect—that sportbikes get crashed and stolen more frequently than other types and that cruisers are least likely to suffer these events that cost insurers.
Among Progressives findings, the motorcycles most likely to be crashed:
Suzuki GSX-R Series
Kawasaki Ninja Series
Suzuki TLR
Yamaha YZF Series
Honda CBR Series
See any similarities amongst those bikes Blackie? And if you want more proof, at the other end of the spectrum, the least likely to be crashed are:
Yamaha Virago Series
Honda Rebel Series
Suzuki Savage
Harley-Davidson FXR
BMW R1200C
This one needed a reply on all of its own. Quite simply, your reflexes, awareness, and overall ability are all finite. It's just a matter of simple science that 140hp, 300 pound machine is going to outstrip your abilities more readily than a 65hp 500 pound machine.
I've ridden sportbikes that are so touchy that the rider is always a twist of the throttle away from a wheelie, and no matter how you cut it or how many excuses you make, that's just dangerous. Accidently give a Honda Shadow too much gas in a corner, and while it might be scary, you'll most likely be fine. That same twist of the throttle on a CBR would lift the front wheel while still in the corner, break traction or both. The outcome would be radically different. I don't care how many excuses squids make, your typical cruiser is much more forgiving and safer.
I don't make excuses for anyone or anything.
Everything we do in life has some danger involved.
You ride what you want to ride and I'll ride what I want to ride ~ that's why they manufacture so many different makes and types. Something for everyone.
Just get out and ride!
Anybody can get on a bike and go fast..I've been riding for quite a while and I STILL find an empty parking lot on Saturdays and Sundays and practice slow speed maneuvers, swerves (which has SAVED my ass on numerous occasions), braking, U-turns, etc..I bought a cruiser to cruise and never ride faster than what I'm comfortable with (usually within 5 mph of the speed limit)..I maintain distance, move over and throttle down when being passed and ride within my capabilities..far too many young'uns just get on and go..the results are tragic in far too many cases..
You qualify . ;)
Yes, maybe for a few minutes. But not just anybody can get on a bike, go fast, and survive!
I agree 100 per cent. Did you know the Air Force implemented a mandatory Motorcycle Safety Foundation "basic course" for USAF motorcyclists in the 80's, and the result was a 50 per cent drop in fatalities within one year? It's true, and you're brother-in-law knows a few things about safety. Just curious, does he wear a helmet? (Yes it's a rhetorical question but please answer anyway for the benefit of others).
I'm not flaming you but I don't think there is such a thing as a "squid bike". But squids are definitely over-represented in the stats.
squid = squirreley kid
squid is slang for the rider, not the bike.
Yeah I'm sure the age and driving record of the driver has nothing to do with it! (/sarcasm)
I have a crotchrocket that goes waaaayyy fast, and my premiums are low because I have an excellent driving record and I'm old.
I'll take up one of those cruiser-type molasses bikes when I'm 80, at about the same time I decide to take up playing golf.
Count me in as yet another sportbike rider who has kept my wits about me and ensured the rubber side stays down and the shiny side stays up for several decades.
The same knucklehead who kills himself on a 2005 Suzuki GSX-R 1000 would accomplish that mission just as easily on a clapped-out 1974 Honda CB550. Riders are squids, not motorcycles. Now get out and ride!
~ Blue Jays ~
Whatever. I'll proudly ride my slow as molasses cruiser. It goes waaaay faster than I ever want to go.
Not true, not true at all. Like it or not, some bikes are just more forgiving than others. What happens when you inadvertantly snap the throttle wide open on a CB550? Not much, you speed up, and if it was a mistake you just roll back on the throttle.
Now, make the same mistake on a liter RR, and the bike can and will go over on you, completely eliminating a second chance.
While the kid might not kill himself under the exact same circumstances he would manage to find a way to kill himself on either motorcycle nevertheless. Motorcycles are a bad place to test one's mortality...whether it's a true classic or the latest hardware. This kid was riding with one foot already in the grave.
~ Blue Jays ~
Roger that Blue Jays ~ 98% of bike screw-ups are not the bike's fault ~ it's called 'cockpit' trouble!
The old risk taking curmudgeon,
blackie
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