Looking for advice on a gun for self defense in the case of roaming gangs of looters.

personal notes | Sep 2, 2005 | putupjob

[megimoo]

Why fool aroung when push comes to shove
get a mk 79 whith h.e.t rounds

[BigTom85]

exactly! Shotgun is the way to go... look into Remington 870 or Whnchester 1300.. both are great guns.. get it in 12 gauge also... look into getting an extended magazine tube for it also.. those are never bad to have on a gun (only people that find them bad are liberals).. i say buy 2 or 4 shotguns and teach everyone in the family to use it... go to a good gun shop to buy one and get the sales person to show you step by step how to use it.. some of the sales ppl at these big box stores dont know a dang thing about the gun your buying...

Oh yea, Piss off a liberal.. buy a gun.. or 2 .. or 3!

[Grizzled Bear]

I was thinking the same thing. I intend to take my wife to a local gun shop and help her learn the fine arts of Shot Gun-Fu.

[opinionator]

If you shoot them outside.......drag the body inside. Learned that from a cop.....

Put the body in the woodchipper.

[stm]

I got my 1911 about 12 years ago. I have probably put at least three thousands of rounds through it. It has the original barrel and barrel bushing and wear is nil; due in part to the high hardness of the steel and liberal use of gun grease on the rails and outside of the barrel. As stated earlier, the only things I have added are the guide rod and some night sights to it. I got some really nice wooden grips for it but opt for the black rubber ones most of the time. You get a firmer grip on it and you are not always worried about scratchig or dinging them. The parkerizing on it is getting thin along the edges. I will probably get it re-done soon.

I do add silicone inserts at the end of my guide rod so when the slide comes back there is no metal on metal. That will extend the life of the frame considerably.

[stm]

If you buy or reload reliable, high quality ammunition, jams are almost non-existant with a well-made weapon.

[NoControllingLegalAuthority]

I changed my return spring in my 1911 and solved a jamming problem. The Colt 1911 models and their clones seem to "like" certain ammunition. I agree with finding what your weapon "likes" and fire a bunch of rounds in practice to give yourself confidence in its reliability.

Practice is the key to good marksmanship.

It's not how fast you draw or how quickly you fire. It's about hitting exactly where you want the bullet to hit.

Most revolvers and semi-autos have all the cartridge capacity most people would need in a gunfight if the rounds are not wasted by firing wildly.

Should you be attacked by multiple assailants and shoot two in quick succession, there is an excellent chance any remaining assailants will note your deadly accuracy and quickly retreat.

[vrwc0915]

no way mk-19 all the way!

[poobear]

"I trust my life to a Colt 1911 .45 cal pistol. What are the two most intimidating sounds in the world? A pump shotgun being racked and the slide of a .45 pulled back and released."

Loaded with hollow points you can nearly cut a tree in half. No matter where you hit someone with one of these babies, they're down! ;D!

[gc4nra]

"Can't take a shotgun to that type of a fight."


Sure you can! With a 20 in. Barrel and ghost ring sights, as on my Mossberg 590, you can hit consistently at 75 to 100 yds. with practice.

[gc4nra]

I'm a former MP, former EMT(4.5 yrs in So. Central L.A. and Compton)an NRA Certified Instructor in Rifle, Pistol, Shotgun, PersonalProtection, Home Firearms Safety and a Range Safety Officer. Also State of CA, DOJ Handgun Safety Inspector and an L.A.Co. WMD Decontaimination Specialist. DHS WMD Awareness Instructor(so if you me running try to keep up!). I'm Cpr and ARC First Aid Certified and have been a Respiratory Therapist for 29 yrs.

I believe in being prepared!

[Americanwolf]

I would say!

Is there a package program you can take for that.... :)

read your tag line too....
love it...

I say Give a man a kimber and a box of 100 rounds and you have a city block cleared.

[gc4nra]

LOL!

Like your tag line also.

Does it just take a hunting license or do you need looter tags too?

[Americanwolf]

nope it is open season due to the current state of emergency in the area... no tags need, but the national guard and army does prefer that you check in before going out hunting.

[gc4nra]

bag limit or "whack 'em and stack 'em"?

[Americanwolf]

Wackem and stackem.... but military will review methods if body count exceeds 50

[matt1234]

Guns are like potato chips...you can't have just one. And they both make your fingers greasy.

For home defense, get a shotgun and pistol. And for good measure, then buy a rifle for when you need to reach out and touch someone. All semi-auto. High capacity mags (where legal).

And a good combat knife such as a Ka-bar for silent ops.

Recommend military/police calibers or popular calibers because ammo is much cheaper.

[matt1234]

Regarding the legal questions about shooting another person...

read and know your local laws on firearms and use of deadly force. Laws vary from state to state--in some cases, from municipality to municipality. The problem doesn't necessarily end when you've killed the bad guy. If you've screwed up by violating the law, your problems may have just started.

[matt1234]

I have a beautiful little .22 Buckmark for plinking. It's fun to shoot but does jam from time to time.

In my experience, .22 (i.e., rimfire) ammo misfires much more frequently than any centerfire caliber that I've shot.

[investigateworld]

"If you've screwed up by violating the law, your problems may have just started."

Totally agree. My point is don't mess up a 'righteous shooting' by dragging the body indoors. Blood splatter is a recognized forensic science, as it's always present.