Posted on 09/02/2005 9:40:57 AM PDT by TerryGale
http://www.mensnewsdaily.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=4044
Posted: Fri Sep 02, 2005 5:28 am Post subject: Fathers' Issues / New Orleans - by sibleydOne theme of mine is that our social fabric is worn very thin and possibly near the tearing point. One major reason is the destruction of fathers and thus families and thus children.
New Orleans tends to show that the social fabric is not as solid and untearable as many seem to think.
New Orleans also tends to make other points.
First, families headed by intact fathers tend to be more self-reliant than torn apart families who tend to be more reliant on government services. Could it be that the disaster would be less if there were more self reliant intact familes? Who is more reliable as a family protector: an intact father or the Department of this or that with the State, City or Feds?
Second, men who retain their role as fathers tend to be more law abiding (many men never attain that role -- others lose it through divorce). If men were looking after their intact families, would there be less looting and lawlessness?
Third, if government was not so preoccupied with attacking and tearing down fathers would they have paid more attention to making sure the levies and other infrastructure was solid? Isn't government spending most of its resources now on things other than building and maintaining sold infrastructure?
Fourth, if massive wealth transfers were not legally mandated by taxation, child support, etc. wouldn't these people have more resources to take take of themselves instead of relying on government, red cross, etc. How many of these victims are women with no man to help them in this type of crises because the man has been driven away or driven into the ground by family law, child support issues. etc. How many of these men with no resources are men financially destoryed by family law, child support, etc. issues?
Fifth, if government was more masculine than it is (the Louisiana governor is a woman, and it seems women are starting to dominate all levels of government) would there be more focuse on maintaining and building solid infrastructure rather than tearing down families and men with policies promoting family breakdown and encouring women to tear down their men and destroy their families?
I realize that not every important event is a father's issue. Certainly, the hurricane wasn't created by feminism anti father forces however I think father's issues are a bigger factor in our world and how it functions than many will admit. Our world / society was founded on the family and when the family is destroyed our ability to function is at a minimum diminished and arguably decimated. I just think that if New Orleans was a City with 95% in tact families the crises would be much less. This is no criticism of New Orleans. I doubt it has a worse family law / father problem than most other cities. It just happens to be the City that has been most recently tested. Other cities would fail just as miserably if tested similarly.
Aack, Sorry about screwing up on the date. Part of me is still back in August...
2 excellent Christian relief organizations:
Southern Baptist's NAMB: http://www.namb.net/
Samaritan's Purse: http://www.samaritanspurse.org/
Excellent article.
It's becoming increasingly obvious that some priorities in regards to maintaining infastructure and developing evacuation plans were lacking well before Katrina (more than just one or two US Presidential Administrations).
Unity and leadership shown in NYC during 9-11 does not seem to be present here. Of course more homes/landscape, food/water resources, and people are affected in Katrina, so maybe that's not a fair comparison.
The evacuation planning was definately lacking. There will probably be a "Katrina Commission" in the future... Hindsight is 20/20. Couldn't large military transports been used to evacuate more people both before and immediately after the storm.
The images and stories coming out of the area now are enough to make both men and women cry.
TerryGale quoted MND poster, Sibled as saying:Thanks for clarifying that particular criticism. I can't answer for the MND poster, but my personal response would be that people with entitlement complexes can rationalize their way into a variety of behaviors."Second, men who retain their role as fathers tend to be more law abiding (many men never attain that role -- others lose it through divorce). If men were looking after their intact families, would there be less looting and lawlessness?"
Anon replied:
"Hogwash! That statement just shows the extent to which male-bashing is mainstream and acceptable in our bigoted, hateful, anti-male society. Would you also say that about non-black or minority people are more law abiding than other races? If not, don't say it about males."
Anon decides to rephrase later...
I certainly tripped over my tongue on that last sentence so I'll try again.
Hogwash! That statement just shows the extent to which male-bashing is mainstream and acceptable in our bigoted, hateful, anti-male society.
Would you also say that black or minority people are more (or less) law abiding than other races? If not, don't say it about males as a group.
Given the slow evacuation response and the dire predicament of survivors, I'm no longer judging those who scavenged food, water, diapers, batteries, and dry clothing. I don't know about the TVs and larger items. It appears that most, if not all survivors will be evacuated with what they can carry and much of New Orleans will be bulldozed. Given that, the looting of larger, non-food-beverage-wearable items was an exercise of greed and futility. Those excess items will probably be lost anyway once evacuation is complete and bulldozing begins. But 'hoarding' is a psychologically driven behavior, not always responsive to reasoning.
Thanks TG for posting this article MEGAPING!!!!
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