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Linux-on-Mac seller aims to fill void
Cnet ^ | August 23, 2005 | Ina Fried

Posted on 08/23/2005 7:19:48 PM PDT by Halfmanhalfamazing

When Apple Computer announced in June that it planned to move to Intel chips, one of the companies left in the lurch was Terra Soft Solutions.

The small Colorado company had carved out a nice niche specializing in selling Linux for Macs and other machines that use IBM's PowerPC chips. In the days following Apple's bombshell, Terra Soft quickly announced plans to seek out alternative hardware on which its Yellow Dog Linux could run.

This week, Terra Soft is announcing it has filled some of the void created by Apple's move. Under a new deal, Terra Soft will resell PowerPC-based servers from Mercury Computer Systems. Mercury's XR9 systems use the same G5 chip as Apple's Xserve, but at 2.4GHz, the chips are slightly faster than those used in Apple's top-of-the-line servers.


TOPICS: Computers/Internet
KEYWORDS: apple; linux; mac; macintosh; mactel
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"Apple's departure from the PowerPC space is actually going to open up Power far greater than it ever could," Staats said in an interview. "Apple was such a dominant player. It was difficult for someone else to squeeze in and do a 'me too' (product)."

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Interesting comment.

Any mac zealots here who are more willing to give up the OS than the hardware?

1 posted on 08/23/2005 7:19:49 PM PDT by Halfmanhalfamazing
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To: Halfmanhalfamazing

No, that's okay. OS X is better than Linux, currently.


2 posted on 08/23/2005 7:28:07 PM PDT by Terpfen (Liberals call the Constitution a living document because they enjoy torturing it.)
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To: Swordmaker

Possibly appropriate for the Mac pinglist.


3 posted on 08/23/2005 7:29:08 PM PDT by Terpfen (Liberals call the Constitution a living document because they enjoy torturing it.)
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To: Bush2000; antiRepublicrat; Action-America; eno_; Glenn; gmill; BigFinn; backslacker; Brian Allen; ..
LINUX replacement for PowerPC machines when Apple goes Intel?

PING

If you want on or off the Mac Ping List, Freepmail me.

4 posted on 08/23/2005 8:00:03 PM PDT by Swordmaker (Beware of Geeks bearing GIFs.)
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To: Bush2000; antiRepublicrat; Action-America; eno_; Glenn; gmill; BigFinn; backslacker; Brian Allen; ..
LINUX replacement for PowerPC machines when Apple goes Intel?

PING

If you want on or off the Mac Ping List, Freepmail me.

5 posted on 08/23/2005 8:00:26 PM PDT by Swordmaker (Beware of Geeks bearing GIFs.)
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To: Terpfen
Possibly appropriate for the Mac pinglist.

Yeah! but Twice???!!!

Only clicked once, got two... FR is running a twofer tonight?

6 posted on 08/23/2005 8:06:10 PM PDT by Swordmaker (Beware of Geeks bearing GIFs.)
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To: Swordmaker
How many Mac users are running FireFox?
7 posted on 08/23/2005 8:46:52 PM PDT by tubebender (Growing old is mandatory...Growing up is optional)
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To: Yehuda
I like camino for FR

What advantage does it have for FR?

I was using Netscape but it became a little unstable and I understand they are not upgrading for the Mac?

9 posted on 08/23/2005 9:45:54 PM PDT by tubebender (Growing old is mandatory...Growing up is optional)
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To: Halfmanhalfamazing

If I wanted to use Unix, it would be Mac OS X, not Linux. And I don't.


11 posted on 08/23/2005 10:40:34 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (Down with Dhimmicrats! I last updated by FR profile on Sunday, August 14, 2005.)
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To: Swordmaker
LINUX replacement for PowerPC machines when Apple goes Intel?

It's going to be a long time before Apple completely stops supporting PPC-based machines. When they shifted from 68k-series chips to the PowerPC, it was a number of years before the old 68k Macs were totally left behind.

I'd guesstimate it will be 2009 or 2010 at he earliest before Apple completely drops all PPC support, especially since it'll probably be mid-2007 at the earliest before all new Macs will have Intel CPUs.

As a point of comparison, the first iMacs were introduced in 1998. You can, if you really want to, install OS X Tiger (10.4) on them. (It'll be a little slow, and you'll definitely need an external hard drive and at least 256MB of RAM, but it'll run just fine.) Not bad for a seven-year-old computer.

12 posted on 08/23/2005 10:50:59 PM PDT by Dont Mention the War (John Bolton for White House Press Secretary!)
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To: Terpfen

Depends on your definition of better.

OS10 did a good amout of catching up with the .4 release.


13 posted on 08/24/2005 10:17:29 AM PDT by Halfmanhalfamazing (You upgraded to Linux? No, I'm not surprised your computer works properly now. Amazing, no?)
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To: tubebender

I need to get my dad to post in here.......


14 posted on 08/24/2005 10:17:54 AM PDT by Halfmanhalfamazing (You upgraded to Linux? No, I'm not surprised your computer works properly now. Amazing, no?)
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To: Halfmanhalfamazing

By better, I mean usable, intuitive, accessible, and having excellent programs: basically, everything the end user needs. Even Microsoft's OS X offerings are excellent--of course, programs like MSN Messenger and IE have to compete with the likes of Adium and Safari, so that's not much of a surprise.

Linux has a way to go on that front. KDE and Gnome are complete jokes, and Linux itself is kind of a redundancy considering the existence of FreeBSD.

I would say that 10.4 is actually a step ahead, not a catch up. Vista will be a catch up with 10.4. Linux is usually playing "me too" with Windows. I'm just not seeing a better OS out there.


15 posted on 08/24/2005 11:10:44 AM PDT by Terpfen (Liberals call the Constitution a living document because they enjoy torturing it.)
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To: Terpfen

^^^^^^^^^^By better, I mean usable, intuitive, accessible, and having excellent programs^^^^^^^^^^^^

You sound like a non-user, or a user who tried one out a year-or-three ago.

^^^^^^^^^^I'm just not seeing a better OS out there.^^^^^^^^^

You have a right to that opinion.


16 posted on 08/25/2005 6:51:31 AM PDT by Halfmanhalfamazing (You upgraded to Linux? No, I'm not surprised your computer works properly now. Amazing, no?)
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To: Halfmanhalfamazing
You sound like a non-user, or a user who tried one out a year-or-three ago.

Oh, I've used OS X. I'm very impressed by it. Great UI design. And while it lacks a huge amount of programs, the few that are available get the job done excellently. There are a couple of quirks, such as being unable to drag items off the dock to the desktop, but that's pretty minor stuff.
17 posted on 08/25/2005 8:38:59 AM PDT by Terpfen (Liberals call the Constitution a living document because they enjoy torturing it.)
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To: Terpfen

You sound like a *linux* non-user, or a user who tried one out a year-or-three ago.

(sorry, there wasn't much context in the other post as to what I was saying)


18 posted on 08/28/2005 2:40:01 PM PDT by Halfmanhalfamazing (You upgraded to Linux? No, I'm not surprised your computer works properly now. Amazing, no?)
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To: Halfmanhalfamazing

The last time I tried Linux out was about a year ago, yeah. I made the full jump a few years ago with Mandrake (version 8, I think), and had a hard time. The UI was pretty bad, and I couldn't get the drivers for my DSL modem installed--they weren't autodetected, and of course there was no obvious method of untarring the drivers. (Having to resort to the command line means bad, bad things for a graphical OS.)

I suppose I should try Knoppix out, but from what I understand, Linux is slightly behind on its laptop support, and of course I'm typing this from an Inspiron 6000...


19 posted on 08/28/2005 7:26:21 PM PDT by Terpfen (Liberals call the Constitution a living document because they enjoy torturing it.)
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To: Terpfen

Yeah, you're correct about laptop support.

And yes, knoppix is a good try as you don't have to install it and they really keep up on their drivers.... they have to it's a live CD.

After a year.......... you're missing alot. The speed in which OSS software evolves is unprecedented.

Just for the sake of adding a date to the discussion...

http://distrowatch.com/table.php?distribution=mandrake

Mandrake 9 was released in 2002. You're in for a big surprise the next time you try. Fedora Core 5 comes out next february. I recommend giving it a try.


20 posted on 08/30/2005 7:35:06 AM PDT by Halfmanhalfamazing (You upgraded to Linux? No, I'm not surprised your computer works properly now. Amazing, no?)
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