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1 posted on 08/16/2005 7:17:58 AM PDT by yankeedame
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It also has something to do with the single- vs. dual-pin crank, dunnit?


3 posted on 08/16/2005 7:55:02 AM PDT by martin_fierro (< |:)~)
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Did Harley-Davidson patent the sound of its motorcycles?

Dear Cecil:

A few days ago a colleague at work asked me, "Does Harley-Davidson have a patent on the sound of their exhaust?" I thought he was kidding. I never heard of the government granting a patent on a particular sound. Then a friend of mind told me H-D won a lawsuit against one of the "rice burner" bike manufacturers because they had (electronically) duplicated the sound of the Harley! What gives? Can you really patent the exhaust sound of an infernal--strike that--internal-combustion engine? --Jens, Glenview, Illinois

Cecil replies:

Not a patent, Jens. A trademark. You patent an invention; you secure trademark rights in a symbol associated with your company or product. Sure, you can get one on a sound. MGM registered the roar of its lion as a trademark, and NBC registered its three-toned chime as a service mark. Hadn't heard that chime in years, but as soon as I saw it mentioned, it popped into my mind, practical proof that sounds can be potent symbols. Trouble is, when I think of Harley, I think of Hell's Angels, the Harley logo, and the word hog (which Harley also tried to register). But--and I realize this may say negative things about my testosterone level--I don't think of a particular sound, which might explain why Harley withdrew its application to register the engine sound earlier this year.

Harley aficionados, and of course the company itself, see it differently. To them the Harley sound, said to resemble "potato-potato-potato," is as distinctive as the Energizer bunny. (Judge for yourself with the sound clips at newsport.sfsu.edu/archive/f96/s ounds/pending.html). When Japanese motorcycle makers began horning in on the Milwaukee company's hog market with their own heavy-duty bikes in the 1980s, Harley felt they were trying to duplicate the rumble of the V-Twin engine, which buyers supposedly seek out. Maybe, though if you ask me they mostly want something loud enough to scare the crap out of guys in Honda Civics. The Japanese put it more diplomatically when fighting Harley's trademark request, arguing that all big motorcycles sound pretty much the same. After six years of legal proceedings and no resolution in sight, Harley caved, claiming it had won in the court of public opinion, etc. Just as well. Can you imagine the trademark infringement suits?

Harley lawyer: "Your honor, our competitor's ripoff of our product purposely goes potato-potato-potato."

Rice-burner lawyer: "Nonsense, it goes poTAHto-poTAHto-poTAHto. Motion to call the whole thing off."

6 posted on 08/16/2005 8:03:37 AM PDT by martin_fierro (< |:)~)
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7 posted on 08/16/2005 8:07:48 AM PDT by martin_fierro (< |:)~)
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I always thought it was the baseball cards in the spokes...


8 posted on 08/16/2005 8:13:39 AM PDT by Dashing Dasher (No man who has once heartily and wholly laughed can be altogether irreclaimably bad.)
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Potatos... Lots of potatos!

Personally, I prefer the sound of a 90 degree V-Twin... My Ducati (when I really open the throttle, HARD) sounds alot like a Nascar V8! Of course, it helps that I've got a set of Carbon Tech slip-ons ( I couldn't afford the Termis :-( ) and removed the airbox cover, with a K&N air filter! I've set off car alarms!

Mark


15 posted on 08/16/2005 9:56:45 AM PDT by MarkL (It was a shocking cock-up. The mice were furious!)
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re-bookmark.

It's all about the single pin v-twin, right?


44 posted on 08/17/2005 12:00:26 AM PDT by Betis70 (Every generation needs a new revolution)
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There is no denying that a Harley-Davidson motorcycle has a unique sound, especially if the mufflers have been removed! Even with the mufflers on, however, it sounds different from other motorcycles.

Ah yes, the subtle difference between "obnoxious" and "even more obnoxious".

< /unpopular opinion >

48 posted on 08/17/2005 8:14:26 AM PDT by HairOfTheDog (Join the Hobbit Hole Troop Support - http://freeper.the-hobbit-hole.net/)
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" So its sound is pop-pop...pop-pop...pop-pop."

Potato, potato, potato... unless it sounds like a duc.

58 posted on 08/18/2005 11:47:40 AM PDT by spunkets
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I just saw Harley oilfilters at walmart. They were almost 10 bucks when all the rest were about 6 bucks.


60 posted on 08/22/2005 6:18:13 AM PDT by biblewonk (A house of cards built on Matt 16:18)
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