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Soccer: Why is it hated?

Posted on 08/08/2005 11:22:35 AM PDT by onja

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Why do most Americans hate soccer? It's not just that they don't like it. They are actively against it.

Soccer takes more skill and endurance than the other sports. In middle and high school you take a beating.(Elbowed, tripped, kicked, tackled- All done fairly or behind the ref's back and without body armor) There are many tactics decided by the players(unlike football and baseball). It's a sport many different people can do. Not just people who are huge or work out daily at the gym. Fast people, skilled people, strong people(fullbacks), tall people(goaly), small people, smart people. Footballers don't need much skill. Mainly strength. baseball doesn't need too much skill. Mainly the basics(throwing and catching) and strength. And, seriously, why does everyone think soccer players are gay, weak, etc? They aren't. In middle school half the team played another school sport. All of the highschoolers could easily have played school football or basketball. Out of the hundreds of players I've played I've never seen one who was even acted at all gay.


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To: F-117A
Soccer needs to tilt the field more toward the offense.

Reforming "offsides" will help a bit here, as would getting the referee and the assistants to call more fouls, especially closer to the goal.

81 posted on 08/08/2005 11:41:36 AM PDT by kevkrom (WARNING: If you're not sure whether or not it's sarcasm, it probably is.)
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To: Rutles4Ever

no.

And I'm sorry I forgot pitchers. That is pretty hard.


82 posted on 08/08/2005 11:41:41 AM PDT by onja ("The government of England is a limited mockery." (France is a complete mockery.)
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To: mysterio
No, I really do think sports suck. And I think we waste tons of tax money on them when they should be funded privately.

Okay, the tax money part I'm with you. But I learned through sports more on how to push myself and how to live life honorably than any classroom I ever entered or any book I've ever read.
83 posted on 08/08/2005 11:41:58 AM PDT by DarkSavant (I touch myself at thoughts of flames)
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To: subterfuge


84 posted on 08/08/2005 11:42:24 AM PDT by Tijeras_Slim (Now that taglines are cool, I refuse to have one.)
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To: onja

And linemen....


85 posted on 08/08/2005 11:42:29 AM PDT by DarkSavant (I touch myself at thoughts of flames)
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To: onja

Hated? Perhaps out of an overly-defensive concern that sissy sports will spread to the US.


86 posted on 08/08/2005 11:42:45 AM PDT by Petronski (I love Cyborg!)
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To: InsureAmerica

Well I remeber in junior high school playing something like soccer but you could use your hands, pick up the ball and run with it etc. Can't remember what we called it but it was pretty fun.


87 posted on 08/08/2005 11:43:09 AM PDT by subterfuge (Obama, mo mama...er Osama-La bamba, uh, bama...banana rama...URP!---Ted Kennedy)
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To: TruthFactor
Typical Soccer Game: 0-0 tie at the end of regulation.

I can't even remember the last time I saw a 0-0 soccer match.

88 posted on 08/08/2005 11:43:10 AM PDT by kevkrom (WARNING: If you're not sure whether or not it's sarcasm, it probably is.)
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To: onja

My son was a varsity goalkeeper (note: I said goalkeeper, not goalie. Soccer people prefer that and I'm trying to be sensitive.) in high school, and loves the game. Personally, I think it is BORING. The offside rule prevents either side from mounting an effective, sustained offense, and the timekeeping is just insane (Stoppage time? Come on!). I agree that it is a very athletic game, but personally, I'm just not interested.

So I guess it's gay.


89 posted on 08/08/2005 11:43:25 AM PDT by Buck W. (Yesterday's Intelligentsia are today's Irrelevantsia.)
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To: InsureAmerica
Find me one team at or above the high school level without a curveball pitcher. Find me one hitter that has made it to the college ranks and can't hit one. It's an essential skill.

Hockey is much more skillful than most any sport. There are big fundamental reasons why Americans don't like soccer and won't for at least several generations. Maybe I'll post them.

90 posted on 08/08/2005 11:43:57 AM PDT by AmishDude (Join the AmishDude fan club: "ROFLOL!" -- tuliptree76)
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To: onja
And, seriously, why does everyone think soccer players are gay, weak, etc?

They're a bunch of skinny little Third Worlders named Renaldo or Ronaldo or Prekki or something.

Or Eurotrash.

91 posted on 08/08/2005 11:44:07 AM PDT by Charles Henrickson (6'3", 230 lb.)
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To: MarkeyD
I like to say that baseball crams 2 minutes of action into 3 hours.

2 minutes? Sounds kind of generous to me...

(All kidding aside, I love football [both kinds] and baseball)

92 posted on 08/08/2005 11:44:34 AM PDT by kevkrom (WARNING: If you're not sure whether or not it's sarcasm, it probably is.)
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To: mudblood
My parents allowed me to play it. In school games we'd beat them by as much as we could.
93 posted on 08/08/2005 11:44:39 AM PDT by onja ("The government of England is a limited mockery." (France is a complete mockery.)
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To: DarkSavant
Okay, the tax money part I'm with you. But I learned through sports more on how to push myself and how to live life honorably than any classroom I ever entered or any book I've ever read.

Honestly, if we could get tax money out of sports, that would be enough for me. I'm glad you actually learned something from sports. When I played in high school, most of the cromagnons on my team only learned how to throw bars of soap at your head in the locker room.
94 posted on 08/08/2005 11:44:40 AM PDT by mysterio
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To: onja
Don't know about soccer but cyclists are hated because 1) because they hog the road and 2) because they wear stupid clothing. Anything that requires participants to wear Lycra Spandex can't be a real sport or a viable mode of transportation.

Are soccer players the worst crybabies in sport? Tell it to John McEnroe. Soccer players don't have anything on him.

If you want more respect for soccer, give the players bats or sticks. That seems to work for other "gay" sports like baseball and lacrosse. And if it doesn't work, you're kids will be ready for what the others dish out.

95 posted on 08/08/2005 11:44:56 AM PDT by x
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To: onja

I don't think it's hated at all: many many kids play soccer, for example, and have a great time doing it and enjoy the suppoirt of their schools, youth groups, and parents.


96 posted on 08/08/2005 11:45:15 AM PDT by HitmanLV
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To: onja

I'll give one small, anecdotal tale to explain it. When I was in high school, the soccer program there was created, and as it had been around in non-school leagues for younger kids for years, there were enough players for a team, albeit a bad one.

One of the players had these annoying bumper-stickers that read "Men Play Football, Intelligent Men Play Soccer" and "Soccer Players do it for 90 Minutes."

Now, maybe it was just meant as a light-hearted joke, but it came across as obnoxious and insulting.

I'm not saying this is an attitude commonly held by soccer proponents, but the last thing you should do when trying to build up a less popular sport is to attack what is (sorry, Baseball) the king of American sports -- football. Baseball and basketball fight for second place, while all others are not even in the same tier. Well, maybe NASCAR is now.

When the Hockey players were still trying to salvage the last season several months ago, one of their stars was on some ESPN show talking up his sport (I think it was that same guy who caused a stink recently by saying he didn't want ungrateful hockey fans to come back, Roenick or Zelnick maybe???), and sure enough, he couldn't prop up Hockey w/o tearing down the other big sports; i.e. the ones that Americans actually care about. I was wondering to myself what this guy was thinking. Did he really think someone out there was going to say to themselves "he's right, baseball sucks compared to hockey!" The guy was clueless.

As to the sport of soccer itself: I think it has to do with the lack of scoring, and the fact that you can't use your arms and hands. And there is simply no legacy or tradition of it here. Did you ever see that episode of The Simpsons where they spoofed it? They had the American crowd and commentators quickly bored, while the Hispanic commentators were very excited over the same action.

Just as I don't think our football will ever catch on big in Europe, I don't think soccer ever will in the United States.


97 posted on 08/08/2005 11:46:09 AM PDT by Aetius
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To: One Proud Dad

If you've never played baseball -- even slow-pitch softball -- you have no idea how miraculous Willie Mays' backwards basket catch was. I can't think of any more brilliant athletic play in all of sport.


98 posted on 08/08/2005 11:47:23 AM PDT by AmishDude (Join the AmishDude fan club: "ROFLOL!" -- tuliptree76)
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To: trubluolyguy

We like the WNBA?


99 posted on 08/08/2005 11:47:27 AM PDT by Aetius
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To: DarkSavant

Sorry for the mistyping but I'm trying to read and type quckly.


100 posted on 08/08/2005 11:47:30 AM PDT by onja ("The government of England is a limited mockery." (France is a complete mockery.)
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