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Cold beer sales to be legal in city (Starkville)
Starkville Daily News Online ^ | 8/3/2005 | JOE C. EVANS

Posted on 08/03/2005 7:00:32 AM PDT by somniferum

n a few weeks time, it will be legal in Starkville to walk into a grocery or convenience store and buy refrigerated beer or light wine.

In a 6-1 decision, the Starkville Board of Aldermen voted Tuesday night to make the change to Starkville's beer ordinance, with Ward 3 Alderman P.C. McLaurin casting the dissenting vote.

"Our job is to do things that are good for the community," said McLaurin. "I have given a great deal of thought to this issue, and have difficulty coming up with one practical thing that this will accomplish. Many of our local sellers are not interested because of the added cost involved in cold beer, and it could lead to greater DUI incidents and other safety issues."

Ward 4 Alderman Richard Corey, sponsor of the change, said that he believed the safety issues called for the new ordinance.

"Many students drive to West Point or Columbus for cold beer; that creates a hazard," said Corey. "Cold beer in other places is a draw because beer that has been cold, then hot and then cold again spoils much faster."

When asked of his legal opinion on the issue, interim City Attorney Rodney Faver said that the city's existing prohibition of refrigerated beer sales would likely not survive a legal challenge.

"The prohibition of sale of cold beer is not justified," said Faver. "A court would rule it arbitrary and capricious."

This statement echoes an official Mississippi Attorney General's Office opinion from 1998 that stated that municipalities have no right to regulate the temperature at which alcohol can be sold. This opinion led to the dismantling of a city-appointed task force reviewing beer ordinance at that time.

In 1998, the Starkville Board of Aldermen chose to keep the existing ordinance on the books.

That ordinance, with a few changes is the one that was still on the books as of Tuesday.

The new proposal came in two parts. The first asked the State Tax Commission to clear the change, and the second changed the ordinance itself. Both measures passed by a 6-1 margin.

"I am bothered by the haste in which this mater is being dealt with," said McLaurin.

"Last Thursday was the first I heard of this proposal, and here it is Tuesday and we are passing it. Many members of this board ran on a platform of citizen input, and we should take this matter under advisement until the next meeting to allow the public to speak further on this matter."

McLaurin received support on the delay only from Ward 5 Alderman Matt Cox, who stated that he had no problem with giving the citizens of Starkville more time to consider the issue. The remainder of the board favored taking a vote on the issue.


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KEYWORDS: beer; msu; starkville
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To: somniferum

Dang! Next thing you know, they'll allow people to wear Ole Miss t-shirts in public.


21 posted on 08/03/2005 7:24:18 AM PDT by stboz
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To: Sybeck1

So good, I messed up and showed her twice lol!!


22 posted on 08/03/2005 7:24:24 AM PDT by Sybeck1 (chance is the “magic wand to make not only rabbits but entire universes appear out of nothing.”)
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To: AppyPappy

In my neck of the woods, only black folks buy 40s. I wonder if the law had some agenda to it.


23 posted on 08/03/2005 7:42:55 AM PDT by stacytec
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To: stacytec

They are big with college kids now.


24 posted on 08/03/2005 7:45:37 AM PDT by AppyPappy
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To: somniferum

Put the warm beer in a cooler, ice on top, then pour salt on the ice...beer cools down quick.


25 posted on 08/03/2005 7:47:03 AM PDT by demsux
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To: somniferum

a lot of mississippi's bottle laws (and presumably other states) seem to stay on the books now to restrict competition from imports which don't meet the size requirements.


26 posted on 08/03/2005 7:51:18 AM PDT by WoofDog123
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To: demsux

For maximum effectiveness, you must twists the beers constantly to cool the beer evenly. In about 2-3 min you will have near frosty beer! College did pay off!


27 posted on 08/03/2005 7:51:58 AM PDT by Andrewksu
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To: Andrewksu

Exactly right...learned it during my one year at Ole Miss.


28 posted on 08/03/2005 7:59:16 AM PDT by demsux
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To: somniferum

Ole Piss women are hot (and easy). Even Faulkner thought so.


29 posted on 08/03/2005 8:10:03 AM PDT by GraniteStateConservative (...He had committed no crime against America so I did not bring him here...-- Worst.President.Ever.)
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To: garyhope

Colbeer or No Beer!

A couple of ice cubes will do in an emergency.

"I have given a great deal of thought to this issue...

I'll bet he has.

"and have difficulty coming up with one practical thing that this will accomplish...

One practical thing is people won't have to go outside of Starkville to buy cold beer.

"Many of our local sellers are not interested because of the added cost involved in cold beer...

or increased beer sales b/c it's cold.

"and it could lead to greater DUI incidents and other safety issues."

Three Bronx cheers for Alderman McLaurin!


30 posted on 08/03/2005 8:16:02 AM PDT by cloud8
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To: demsux

A beer can’s heat transfer to its’ surroundings can be maximized by increasing the amount of surface area that is exposed to the differential temperature of the beer can to its’ surroundings. Thus, immersing a beer can in cold water provides this maximization in that it also lowers the resistance to heat flow caused by the thin film coefficient at the water/ beer can interface.

Techniques such as putting the beer can in the freezer do not work as well since, although you have an increase in differential temperature, the air to can thin film resistance coefficient is extremely large when compared to that of the water to can thin film coefficient.

Putting salt on ice takes advantage of the colligitive property of decreasing the freezing point of water (increasing the differential temperature) however, it is the reduction of the thin film coefficient effected by the contact of liquid water with increased can surface area that explains the phenomena you report.


31 posted on 08/03/2005 9:28:01 AM PDT by FMBass (“Now that I’m sober I watch a lot of news” – Garofalo: From “Treason” by Coulter)
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To: FMBass

You learn something new every day.


32 posted on 08/03/2005 9:33:45 AM PDT by somniferum
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To: petitfour; somniferum; Altair333; truthluva; struggle; Coast2Capitol; Sonny M; MississippyMuddy; ...

MISSISSIPPI STATE PING.

THis should be worth at least 1000 jokes.


33 posted on 08/03/2005 9:38:43 AM PDT by WKB (A closed mind is a good thing to lose.)
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To: GraniteStateConservative

That's one way to make MissStank women look better. Cold beer!




No Need
Safe sex at Miss State = "cows that don't kick"


34 posted on 08/03/2005 9:49:26 AM PDT by WKB (A closed mind is a good thing to lose.)
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To: WKB

We used to call it the "Land of warm beer and cold women".


35 posted on 08/03/2005 10:02:09 AM PDT by demsux
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To: somniferum
It's about damn time! When I went to MSU back in the 70's they allowed the sale of liquor and wine, but not beer. The place to buy beer was out on the county line road between Starkville and Columbus, about 8-10 miles away. These joints were owned by businessmen in Starkville who feared their enterprises would dry up if people could purchase beer in the city limits. As a result, every 4 years when a referendum was held to legalize beer, it would be opposed by the pastor of the First Baptist Church of Starkville who would be supplied with money by the owners of the county line beer joints! I can still remember the radio commercial stating that if you voted for legalizing beer in Oktibbeha county you were a drug pusher.

As Florence King said in her book Southern Ladies and Gentlemen, "Build a fence around the South, and you'll have the world's largest madhouse".

36 posted on 08/03/2005 10:04:41 AM PDT by Exeter (If Life gives you lemons, just shut up and eat the damn lemons!)
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To: FMBass; demsux
Try telling that to THIS State fan


37 posted on 08/03/2005 10:14:14 AM PDT by WKB (A closed mind is a good thing to lose.)
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To: somniferum; Sybeck1
Corinth is a blue city in a red state. Any time one has a significant number of democrats there is outright hypocrisy, graft and corruption with the politicos in charge. This city with its idiocy(there is an editorial just about weekly written by locals that blame Bush, the last being his fault of the SCOTUS's decision on imminent domain) and overt dishonesty amazes me to this day.

The Dixie Mafia, the blatant insurance scams (medicare, car accident and house fire), the pharmoney episodes, and the Frankel Embezzlement money laundering by locals are just a few of the legacies of its citizens, and Corinth is a city of less than 20k citizens.

38 posted on 08/03/2005 10:14:35 AM PDT by vetvetdoug (Shiloh, Corinth, Iuka, Brices Crossroads, Harrisburg, Britton Lane, Holly Springs, Hatchie Bridge,)
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To: vetvetdoug

Have you thought about relocating? :>)


39 posted on 08/03/2005 10:16:24 AM PDT by WKB (A closed mind is a good thing to lose.)
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To: somniferum

Students at the Udder university are gonna be so HAPPY!


40 posted on 08/03/2005 10:17:31 AM PDT by SuziQ
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