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I Have the Option of Moving to MS 64 bit OS for My AMD at a Great Price. Should I?
7.28.05 | mlmr

Posted on 07/28/2005 5:49:48 PM PDT by mlmr

Microsoft has an offer good til the end of the month to obtain the 64 bit OS for a great price as a download. It requires quite a bit of a technical challenge to install and everyone here knows that I am a tech zero...but cute!

Should I install?

What are the upsides and downsides?

Will I need to marry a technical genius to keep it running?

Is there one available?

A dedicated MS User


TOPICS: Computers/Internet
KEYWORDS: 64bit

1 posted on 07/28/2005 5:49:48 PM PDT by mlmr
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To: Bush2000

Ping!


2 posted on 07/28/2005 5:51:52 PM PDT by TomServo ("Hey, it's helmet day at NASA!")
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To: William Creel

I have not heard of windows vista. Does it use 64 bit technology?


4 posted on 07/28/2005 5:53:42 PM PDT by mlmr (CHICKIE-POO!)
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To: William Creel

Vista?


5 posted on 07/28/2005 5:53:52 PM PDT by GregB (Bring back Capt. Michael Scott Speicher!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!)
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To: mlmr
Just so we're clear on what the program offers:

Exchange Windows XP Professional (32-bit) for Windows XP Professional x64 Edition for a limited time

The upgrade is likely to go smoothly however you need to be aware that some anti-virus and firewall software is not yet enabled for 64bit.

Given that you state you are a tech zero (though you offer no supporting evidence for being cute!), I would suggest you have a backup PC around just in case things go awry.

For users who are comfortable with installing operating systems, this is a pretty easy upgrade.

 

8 posted on 07/28/2005 5:59:48 PM PDT by Incorrigible (If I lead, follow me; If I pause, push me; If I retreat, kill me.)
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To: GregB

So this is the Longhorn? Will it be 64 bit? Does it matter?

I feel like I am computing with half my brain tied behind my back with my 64 bit machine and MS OS.

Of course we could say many other half a brain things here but...


9 posted on 07/28/2005 5:59:58 PM PDT by mlmr (CHICKIE-POO!)
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To: Incorrigible

I would suggest you have a backup PC around just in case things go awry.


I have two extra pcs. What would I do with them?


10 posted on 07/28/2005 6:11:47 PM PDT by mlmr (CHICKIE-POO!)
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To: mlmr

Your profile states that you're a columnist and homeschooler. If your main PC becomes disabled, I presume you'll want the ability to work on an alternate PC.

Also, I would suggest you copy important files from your hard drive to a blank CD. This is something everyone should do frequently but when making significant changes to your computer, you should definitely do this first.


11 posted on 07/28/2005 6:23:29 PM PDT by Incorrigible (If I lead, follow me; If I pause, push me; If I retreat, kill me.)
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To: Incorrigible

Thanks.


12 posted on 07/28/2005 6:27:18 PM PDT by mlmr (CHICKIE-POO!)
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To: mlmr
I'd recommend against it. You will gain nothing and lose much.

If you have use any special hardware drivers that don't come from Microsoft, they won't work, and you will be deprived of that hardware. For instance, last I knew, Intel's ethernet boards, which are in fairly widespread usage, cannot be made to work with 64 bit Windows XP. I guess Intel is not eager to help a version of Windows that only runs on AMD chips.

The main advantage of 64 bits is the support for larger memory, but unless you already have 4 GBytes of RAM, and are itching to add more, this won't matter in the slightest to you. Most of us have a half GByte (also known as 512 MBytes) or one GByte of RAM (well, DRAM, to be precise), and don't need this. Folks running large corporate databases and big number crunching scientific computing jobs are more likely to need this much memory. From what you say, I am quite certain that you do not have, and have no need for, this much memory. So the one serious advantage of 64 bit Windows is utterly useless to you.

If you do change to the 64 bit version, I understand that Microsoft will disable the product key you have to license your 32 bit version of Windows XP. You will have to buy another copy of Windows XP ($100 or $200, at least) if you decide to go back to the normal 32 bit Windows XP. If you have support from your computer vendor for Windows XP, this will likely be voided by applying the 64 bit version to your system.

If you play games on your system (or you have a teenager who does) you want to avoid the 64 bit Windows like the plague. Graphics card drivers are not up to speed, and this can result in catastrophic loss of gaming performance. Applications that are recompiled for 64 bit code can, in some cases, gain a few percent of performance, if their data access pattern is favorable. Unless you perform carefully controlled benchmarks, you will never notice this minor gain, if it even applies to your usage pattern.

Even Microsoft discourages most users from this change. From their own website http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/64bit/upgrade/default.mspx :

Before you make the decision to move to 64-bit, we recommend taking the following steps:

Read the information on this Web site about Windows XP Professional x64 Edition. Unless you are pushing the boundaries of the 32-bit architecture, you will probably find that a 32-bit operating system is still the best option.

Investigate whether or not 64-bit device drivers are available for the components in your PC and the peripherals that you use (scanners, cameras, and so on). Since your 32-bit drivers will not work on this version of Windows, it is important that you make sure your devices are supported. You can find many of these supported devices on Windows Marketplace.

Back up your data and settings. Windows XP Professional x64 Edition requires a "clean installation," meaning the contents of your hard drive will be erased during the installation.

In short, to answer your initial question, I recommend that you do not do this.
13 posted on 07/28/2005 11:09:42 PM PDT by ThePythonicCow (To err is human; to moo is bovine.)
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To: mlmr
If you're not technically proficient, don't do this. I must add, however, that my son-in-law, who is very technically proficient, has installed it, and loves it. He does games on it, too, and it's fast as lightening.
14 posted on 07/29/2005 2:20:40 AM PDT by Jeff Chandler (J.Y. Chen, Chinese paleontologist)
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To: ThePythonicCow

This is the information I need. I read the information you posted but still could not decide.
Thank you.


15 posted on 07/29/2005 2:59:30 AM PDT by mlmr (CHICKIE-POO!)
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To: mlmr

Unless you need to run apps which require large amounts of memory (3GB and more) you won't see any benefit, and are likely to find third party software such as device drivers doesn't work. I wouldn't bother.


16 posted on 07/29/2005 3:00:19 AM PDT by alnitak ("That kid's about as sharp as a pound of wet liver" - Foghorn Leghorn)
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To: mlmr
Yeah, but you'd need to run GSH174 concurrently and make sure the connipulator doesn't overload. And you'd want to wire the exchrominator in when you do this to prevent your plagtites from melting.

Otherwise, I think you'll be OK.

I'm in the running for the No. 1 Tech Zero of the Planet title...

17 posted on 07/29/2005 3:05:19 AM PDT by Allegra (Less Than 20 Days Until R&R - W'HOOOO!)
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To: Allegra


I'm in the running for the No. 1 Tech Zero of the Planet title...

You know what a connipulator is????!!

I win Tech Zero of the Planet...but cute!

Big Grin


18 posted on 07/29/2005 4:36:59 PM PDT by mlmr (CHICKIE-POO!)
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