This can't be true, from what I have heard Firefox had no security problems. < /sarcasm >
Posted on 07/18/2005 8:45:23 PM PDT by N3WBI3
The open-source Firefox browser and Thunderbird e-mail client will be updated for the second time in a week because of code changes that have unintentionally stopped some third-party extensions from functioning correctly.
The updates will take Firefox and Thunderbird to version 1.0.6, while the Mozilla Suite will be updated to version 1.7.10, wrote representatives from the Mozilla Foundation on the group's developer news blog. Mozilla oversees the software's development.
It appears security fixes in last week's 1.0.5 update caused the problems.
"There is a very real chance that some of the general security improvements in last week's 1.0.5 update may impact a number of extensions that worked with 1.0.4 and earlier, and we want to identify and address as many of these as possible before we release 1.0.6," the representatives said.
Because of the impending update, the Mozilla Foundation has asked developers to temporarily halt work on localizing the software for non-English language markets, a move that has drawn criticism from some adherents.
"We are getting lots of e-mails from Firefox users in Poland asking us about why isn't Firefox 1.0.5 available in Polish," wrote one developer in the localization newsgroup.
"A few days more, and it's gonna be a big public relations disaster for Firefox outside the U.S.A.," the developer added.
Another developer attacked the foundation in its bug-reporting forum.
"Tens of millions of users are still using 1.0.4 while critical security bugs are already published after en-US (U.S. English) 1.0.5 release," the developer wrote.
Calling for the foundation to release its software in all supported languages simultaneously, the developer said that by delaying the foreign language versions, Mozilla was wasting the work done by developers promoting the foundation's brands in local markets.
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"Extensions that interact with Web content and events may be the most susceptible to these changes," the foundation representatives wrote. "Mail-handling extensions such as (secure e-mail extension) Enigmail for Thunderbird and the Mozilla Suite should also be tested heavily."
A Mozilla Foundation representative was not immediately available to comment on the changes.
Renai LeMay of ZDNet Australia reported from Sydney
Do you know how many times I've been told I was "ignorant" because I currently prefer MS over Linux? It's ridiculous, all of it. I choose my OS, they choose theirs.
What gets me is people who refuse to open their eyes to other possibilites. You know from our conversations here that I am an MS advocate, yet I asked to be on your OSS ping list, and regularly join in the OSS threads, because I refuse to limit myself to one OS and only one. I see good and bad in ALL systems. None are perfect and none are crap. Yet there are some here who refuse to even mention the word Microsoft without saying something negative.
So I said its a big deal and they need to change something in their software practices inorder to prevent this in the future.. Again you look the fool..
If I give you a clear cut example from FR will you leave again for another week? Or will you take that back and admit that even on FR there are linux idiots out there.
But on top of that I think you're still missing the point that linux bigots spout off as fact what is actually just opinion. In your post you at least used IMHO, so as to make the distinction that you're just guesing as what you think an answer is. Say what you will about B2K, he does often back his info up with links and hard core facts. Sure he leans the M$ way, but he too is allowed to have an opinion. And from what I can tell his opinion is based more an fact than most of the Linux ones are.
Linux as a desktop for the common users is a big fat joke.
No but I can quote you saying ie is perfect..
Or will you take that back and admit that even on FR there are linux idiots out there.
There are Linux, windows, and OSX idiots everywhere? I have never seen someone say that OSS is perfect..
But on top of that I think you're still missing the point that linux bigots spout off as fact what is actually just opinion. .... Say what you will about B2K, he does often back his info up with links and hard core facts.
Umm I have had discussions with him in which he said that you had to go into the command line and type obscure things to update a Linux box... I posted screen shots of my desktop using a standard redhat/fedora gui tool to update that is as easy as Windows update... B2K post his opinions and 5 year old facts not much more...
Linux as a desktop for the common users is a big fat joke.
Speaking of opinion..
This is a serious question. It's about about 18-24 months since I played with Linux as a desktop. I was trying to update KDE, but I ended up playing find that library game. You know you load one library just to have it say...now go find these 4 libraries. Then you find one of those and it says go find these 6 libraries. Needless to say I gave up on linux as a desktop replacement when i couldn't even upgrade KDE.
Have they improved that on all builds of linux yet or is it still a search and hunt type operation?
In the four years I have been using Linux pretty much exclusivly they have improved but two years ago graphical updater's that resolved dependancies were standard on almost every major distro. If I may ask what package were you trying to install and what was the Linux distro you were using? Most times people run into issues because they are trying to install something that hard way (from source) rather than through a package built for that distro.
Two problems in the Linux community, no simple documentation and no standard naming convention for binary packages. But if you use installers from repositiories like DAG, and the distros own repo's all the deps will be automatically resolved for you, its been that way since at least RH 7.0 (2001)
I was trying redhat then switched to SUSE as they already had the latest KDE. But to be honest it wasn't that much of an improvement.
1) Find a distro which has what you want (Linux is all about consumer choice) or
2) Find a repository which has builds other people have made for the distro you are using (dag is a great one that has distros for anything but Fedora)..
Well, KDE was out for what I believe was a couple of months; however, no major distro had it. If I remember correctly suse was one of the first so I went with them. I also remember having mandrake in the mix, but don't remember what was up with that. I do know mandrake was one of the first linux distros that actually installed, so I always preferred to play with them first.
But seriously using x-windows as a local gui shell sucks for response time. It's like running windows with a bunch of spyware and processes running. click and wait.
Thats not been my experience, x windows chugs along just fine for me. Now if I load KDE or Gnome on slow hardware it will perform like windows on sloe hardware. Or windows on new hardware running seven different tools to keep adware, spyware, and other malware off..
Well, KDE was out for what I believe was a couple of months
KDE has been out since 1998, and there have been binary release out there for Suse for at *least* five years (http://www.linux.org/news/2000/10/27/0002.html). Like I said you ended up doing it the hard way, not entirely your fault, the Documentation out there for Linux is not quite standardized and while I am more than capable of installing from source I'll spend a good deal of time looking for binaries first if they are not in the distros reporitory...
rpmfind.net is a good one for downloading stuff but you really want a good apt or yum repository which will always host the apps *and all dependencies* so a simple
yum install kde
Will install everything you need for kde (btw there is a gui for this operation)
This can't be true, from what I have heard Firefox had no security problems. < /sarcasm >
yea better to come late and say something redundant than not to come at all right?
Maybe I wasn't clear because I forgot the proper versioning. But I was trying to go from say KDE 2.1 to KDE 2.2 (Or KDE 2 to 3). Something like that and the latest version wasn't already put into the distro. I believe I found SUSE that just released a build with the latest KDE.
In regards to X windows...it's good for over the wire (as it was disigned). But for local things it really is slow. I've always had top of the line computers and it ran ok for about 2 minutes then it would "hang" for about couple seconds. This would be typical, except for the occasional longer hang.
For which I am sure there were binanry packages built on rpmfind or dag..
If there was, I'd be surprised as I looked and looked for an installer. I remember even loading something like an rpm or rps (or something like that as the extention). But evidently changing the KDE isn't as simple and has to be compiled for each distro and then they can make all these special installers. The distro's I was testing with didn't have it. You can check for yourself. Find the date KDE was released as a newer version and then look when Red Hat had an installer for it.
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