Posted on 07/17/2005 5:16:14 PM PDT by grellis
THIS THREAD IS INTENDED FOR READERS THAT HAVE COMPLETED THE BOOK! If you have not yet read the book, consider yourself warned: There will be spoilers on this thread.
For my fellow FReepers who have no intention of reading the book but would like to discuss the more controversial issues related to the work, I am asking you as politely as I can: DO NOT HIJACK THIS THREAD. We are all members of this forum and as such, it is not up to me to disallow anyone from participating in the discussion. That is why I am asking you--please do not hijack this thread. If you would like to discuss the more controversial aspects of the book, maybe you could start your own thread and ping us over there. If we are interested, we'll come.
You're added!!
I'm having a very difficult time with the pc today, folks--all the humidity is making the mouse stick and I've forgotten the "dehumidify" spell. I'll be back tonight--we're in for a stormy afternoon here, I'm hoping that the humidity clears up a bit afterwards.
Keep those wands handy!
I think wearing it allows the wearer to be taken over.
More to the point, what good does making them nearly impossible to acquire serve?
Wasn't Dumbledore on the chocolate frog cards, as well??
True, but I think he'll still be able to assist Harry from his portrait. You know there has got to be at least a few more that he can travel between.
Yes, he was.
Harry: "He's gone!"
Ron: "Of course he is. You can't expect him to wait around forever."
More to the point, what good does making them nearly impossible to acquire serve?
Better to hid, so no one can destry them, and V can manipulate the Death Eaters enough to get any of them to collect it. The farther apart they are, the better his chances of never dying, and isnt that the point of doing that?
Xerimus totalus, for mice...
Splat! Eeeeeee!
There went another brain cell.
DD did tell Draco they could hide he and his mother more completely that he could ever know and everyone would believe they would both have been killed. Maybe that is what Snape and DD planned for DD. I just don't want to believe that he is dead. I was in a funk for a couple of hours yesterday after I finished reading the book.
I was thinking the same thing. Harry and the DA could all have pocket Dumbledores.
From my post 176
I would think that DD's hand turned black when he put on the ring (horcrux) because the ring started to control him and Snape had to kill the hand and destroy the ring to get it to stop. I would not want to be the one to drink from Hufflepuff's cup or put on the locket.
Also I read Rowling made 36 Million in 24 Hours on Book Sales. (not total price of books sold that is how mush SHE got) That is amazing!
(also a ping to myself, so I can comeback see what ya all think after I have finshed the book.)
Good points. JKR is so good at laying out clues that it makes me want to go back and read all of the books again to see what I can pick up. Some time back I read an interview with her and she said that all the clues are there to figure out the ultimate outcome.
David Moulds for the News of the World - How does Aunt Petunia know about dementors and all the other magical facts she knows?
JK Rowling: Another very good question. She overheard a conversation, that is all I am going to say. She overheard conversation. The answer is in the beginning of Phoenix, she said she overheard Lily being told about them basically.
Is that true?
JK Rowling: Yes. The reason I am hesitant is because there is more to it than that. As I think you suspect. Correctly, but I don't want to say what else there is because it relates to book 7.
I found myself thinking of this conversation as well. BUT Rowling has said that she isn't into tricks, but writes straightforwardly. That ought to mean that Snape performing the killing curse DID kill Dumbledore.
I still trust Snape. (My son is just as convinced that he's gone bad.) I like the idea that DD and Snape worked out his murder, especially to protect Draco from being a murderer. That sounds like Dumbledore.
I think Ron, Ginny and Hermione will stay with Harry even if he doesn't return to Hogwarts. I can't see them just going on with school or whatever while Harry fights. The ultimate fight will be with just Harry and Voldemort, of course, but he needs the Order and the DA kids to help with the Death Eaters and to gather info.
There is so much left to tie up! I just know that there is a larger story line with Neville! Something has to happen with Percy too, either an overtly evil act or a return to the fold. There was so much dealing with the werewolf thing too, I think, that there has to be something with Bill's resultant circumstances that means something for Harry.
I was surprised about Snape being the HBP, but I read the book so quickly...it seemed absolutely obvious once I knew! LOL! I had the Ron/Hermione romance pegged ages ago. I had thought Fleur would dump Bill at the hospital and that she'd turn out to be spying on the Weasley's or something.
I had heard enough rumors that DD's death wasn't a big surprise. But I did suspect at one point that it would be Hagrid. Glad it wasn't!
Now, WHY was DD so insistent that Harry only share info with Ron and Hermione? Did DD mean to exclude McGonagall and other professors...Lupin and the rest too? Couldn't DD have talked with them from his portrait and given them all comfort and advice, right away, once he appeared? Why didn't he? Even just a short chat with Harry to say something inspirational... We know that DD will never TRULY leave Hogwarts unless there is no one there who is loyal. That HAS to refer to help from his portrait, I think.
DD's "wand hand" turned black in book V when Voldemort aimed at his wand with the Avakadevra curse...and by DD's own admission he was growing weaker and weaker...this is why I think it was all a plan between Snape and DD...DD sacrificed himself ...
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