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Posted on 07/14/2005 3:23:55 PM PDT by HairOfTheDog
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Can you pull the pad without pulling the shoe tho?
Becky
No thanks:). When I was president of our local round up club, I sold, drew, and painted all the sponsor signs that hung at the arena....I painted enough signs to last a life time.
This one really wasn't a sign, it's a stencil. Charlie will cut the letters out then they will lay it on the parking lot and paint them on to the lot.
Becky
No - he'd have to pull it and reset the shoe.
That's what I thought. I don't know how much more that hoof wall can take.
do you think that foot will get soft within a 6 wk period? I think it could and that's what worries me. But I have to be able to keep that shoe on to be able to ride him....
Becky
Well, I'd ask the farrier what the best course of action is, I have to say, I don't know..... Even if it does, the question might be how long will it ~stay~ soft after taking it off? If might be ouchy just a few days, it's not big deal when you do it. If it will be ouchy for awhile, you'd want to get that over with.
My baby starting his first class in nursing tonight. I guess home school does pay off. Some days when I was fighting with him to study I wasn't so sure.
I think I'll call the farrier tomorrow:)
Becky
N.H. woman dies of Triple E By ANNE SAUNDERS Associated Press Writer CONCORD, N.H. (AP) -- State health officials say a 20-year-old Newton woman died Friday of Eastern equine encephalitis.
This marks the fifth confirmed case of Triple E in the state this year but the first time someone has died. Health officials said the woman was taken to a Boston hospital on Sept. 3 with symptoms of the disease. An initial test was inconclusive, according to Dr. Jose Montero, the state epidemiologist. A subsequent test confirmed on Saturday she had the disease, he said.
"The death of this young woman is terrible tragedy," Health Commissioner John Stephen said in a statement. "Our thoughts and prayers are with her family and loved ones at this difficult time. We are currently working to determine where she might have been during the past few weeks to understand where she acquired EEE."
Montero says testing of mosquitoes in the Kingston-Newton-Plaistow area have made it clear the illness has a foothold there.
"That is clearly an area where there's a lot of endemic activity and people clearly have to be careful," he said. Four other confirmed cases of the disease in New Hampshire involved people in Londonderry, Goffstown, Manchester and Concord. All four were treated at area hospitals and have since been released.
State health officials continue to advise people to wear bug repellant along with long sleeves and long pants and to empty any standing water on their property where mosquitos could breed.
"Eastern equine encephalitis typically manifests with flu-like symptoms initially of fever and malaise," Montero said. "The disease then frequently results in individuals having a severe headache and other neurological effects that result in a change in mental status."
Statistically, about a third of patients who contract the illness die from it. Two of three patients with the illness in Massachusetts have died this year.
Montero said New Hampshire had been unusually lucky until this death. "It is clear this is a deadly disease," he said. Health officials continue to watch for new cases of Triple E. They say the danger should subside as the weather gets colder, but Montero said it will take at least two good frosts to kill off the mosquito population for the year. That's unlikely to happen before October.
Officials observe the disease tends to operate in cycles and they're bracing for new cases next year. Montero said much remains unknown about how infected birds and mosquitoes interact to trigger outbreaks of human infection.
"For the next several years, local authorities need to plan how they're going to deal with this," Montero said. Health officials have set up a toll-free line for information on Triple E and the West Nile virus at 1-866-273-6453. The department also has information on its Web site at http://www.dhhs.nh.gov
Triple E virus found in more birds Published: Tuesday, Sep. 13, 2005 CONCORD (AP) – State health officials announced evidence Monday of the spread of a dangerous virus and again urged people to take steps to avoid being bitten by mosquitoes.
The state public health laboratory found the mosquito-borne Eastern equine encephalitis virus, known as Triple E, in four more birds, a horse and two pools of water, officials said.
“We are continuing to identify Triple E in new communities across the state,” health Commissioner John Stephen said in a statement. He recommended that residents take precautions, even in communities where the virus has not been found.
Stephen wants people to use repellants, wear long sleeves and pants outside, and drain standing water near homes.
The infected birds, found in Hopkinton, Salem, Nottingham and Plaistow, bring the statewide total this year to 32. The horse, in Kingston, was the sixth found to have the virus.
Both pools of water were in Andover. Five people have contracted Triple E in the state, including a 20-year-old Newton woman who died Friday at a Boston hospital.
Newton is just north of Haverhill, Mass.
Kelly Labell was the daughter of former Newton Police Chief Richard Labell, who said he plans to campaign for mandatory vaccinations of horses against the disease. There is no human vaccine.
Experts say vaccinating horses would not help prevent human cases of the disease, however. Dr. Jose Montero, the state epidemiologist, says both humans and horses are “dead ends” in the transmission of Triple E, apparently because they do not develop high enough levels of the virus to pass it on.
The state already encourages the vaccination of horses for their own protection, he said.
Labell, now a part-time police detective in Raymond, said his daughter stayed home on Sept. 2 from work with flu-like symptoms, including pain in her lower back, neck and left ear. When she developed a fever, she went to a hospital where she was diagnosed with an inner-ear infection and the flu. She was sent home with antibiotics.
The next day, her fever worsened and she returned to the hospital, where doctors found a high white blood cell count in her urine. They diagnosed a urinary tract infection and kept her overnight.
When her condition deteriorated, doctors transferred her to Beth Israel Medical Center in Boston, where she died.
Three people in Massachusetts have contracted the disease and two have died.
Though much of the Triple E found in New Hampshire has been in the southern part of the state, two of the latest discoveries were in Andover, 50 miles north of the border.
Labell planned to speak at a Newton selectmen’s meeting Monday night about the need to vaccinate horses.
“We lost the most precious thing we have, but we don’t want it to be in vain,” he said.
“If my daughter’s death can be the catalyst for the passage of a law that could save some people, I’m going to do everything I can to make that happen.”
The health lab also confirmed a less dangerous virus, West Nile, in birds found in Plaistow and Bow.
The health department has a hotline for people with questions about either virus: 1-866-273-6453. The line is open from 8 a.m. to 4:30 p.m.
The department’s Web site, www.dhhs.nh.gov, also has information about both diseases. http://www.nashuatelegraph.com/apps...NEWS02/50913008 __________________
How sad. I'm sure glad I'm finally starting to feel better.
You see hooves like this all the time on gaited horses. Some people actually leave an extremely long toe like this on purpose to smooth out a pacey horse. It's crazy!
People will also do this on purpose to racehorses, in the mistaken belief it will make them a bit faster. It's a really bad idea, especially if they want the horse to go on to another career after racing.
That's terrible about the girl dying of EEE. It's strange that they have such a problem with it that far north. You'd think there'd be more of it around here because we have mosquitoes virtually all year long. People can't even take their dogs and cats off of heartworm medication for the winter.
I've had my oldest gelding, Tennessee, barefoot for about a year and a half now, trying to get his contracted heels to spread out. They're caused by basically the same thing. For years, they shod him with a really long toe because he was pacey and I didn't know anything about shoeing. I made the poor assumption that the farrier knew what he was doing, and he did. It does smooth out a pace, but at what price? I'm just lucky that he didn't end up with navicular because of it. His feet look much better now, although he still has a very deep crease in the central sulcis of his front frogs. Maybe one of these days it'll spread out enough to close up. I'm thinking about ordering him some Old Mac boots so I can ride him a little bit. He's still too tender to ride without shoes, even after all this time. He has extremely flat soles.
Tuffy has flat soles, too.
The shoer is trying to keep Tuffy's feet in a normal axis but he can't do it without cutting him too short, causing even more lameness. It's a no win situation. I'm going to get him back out and go with pour in pads. The vet says they provide a ton of cushion without the problems of something getting under them.
I do very little riding with Tuffy and it's a good thing. He wouldn't hold up under heavy riding like endurance, jumping, barrel racing, etc. I've taken him on 2 or 3 hour trail rides with no problems but they were easy rides, walk/trot only. He has a lovely smooth western pleasure jog and lope and it's what I like best about him. That and his funny personality.
I sure hope he feels better soon.
Good morning.
I'm currently in the midst of a real mess with Grace, one of my 2yr old fillies. She has Sweet Itch and this year it's the worst I've ever seen. I feel so sorry for her. She's just one big sore. She's rubbed out the top half of her tail and all of her mane and just scratches all the time. I've given her steroid shots and prednisone pills to no avail. It looks like she's destined to wear a midge-proof sheet for the rest of her life. If you want to read about what Sweet Itch is, this site is the best I've found...
http://www.sweet-itch.co.uk/symptoms.html
And Tennessee also. I hope he feels better soon.
I wouldn't know a bad shoe job from a good one, I swear. I'm just happy to have the shoer I have.... I'm not looking forward eventually losing him to a bad back career change.
My pony's tail is just growing back now.... I don't know if she had ~that~, but she does rub her tail out every summer, and just seems to itch too much all over. All gone now, but she is a scratchy pony in July.
Well, I look at it this way, the perfect horse doesn't exist and we all have to put up with something. At least he's gentle, doesn't buck, kick, bite or run off, so things could be worse.
I had a horse with sweet itch and tried everything. My vet suggested a fly spray called FlyPel and I kid you not, it worked. He never had another problem but he wasn't as serious with it as your horse sounds. Chester used to rub his shoulders and neck raw every summer. He's dead now, he got really old, stopped eating and looked like death warmed over so I had him euthanized and buried.
Tuffy is also on steroids, Dexamethasone, and it does stop his itching. It's not sweet itch, though.
I was reading about easywalker shoes the other day. Has anyone tried those? I'm curious to see if they are any good.
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