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The Hobbit Hole XXIII - Let them go! Let them go!

Posted on 07/12/2005 8:11:36 PM PDT by HairOfTheDog

Welcome to The Hobbit Hole!

Let them go! Let them go!

New verse:

Upon the hearth the fire is red,
Beneath the roof there is a bed;
But not yet weary are our feet,
Still round the corner we may meet
A sudden tree or standing stone
That none have seen but we alone.
Tree and flower and leaf and grass,
Let them pass! Let them pass!
Hill and water under sky,
Pass them by! Pass them by!

Still round the corner there may wait
A new road or a secret gate,
And though we pass them by today,
Tomorrow we may come this way
And take the hidden paths that run
Towards the Moon or to the Sun.
Apple, thorn, and nut and sloe,
Let them go! Let them go!
Sand and stone and pool and dell,
Fare you well! Fare you well!

Home is behind, the world ahead,
And there are many paths to tread
Through shadows to the edge of night,
Until the stars are all alight.
Then world behind and home ahead,
We’ll wander back to home and bed.
Mist and twilight, cloud and shade,
Away shall fade! Away shall fade!
Fire and lamp, and meat and bread,
And then to bed! And then to bed!

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To: JenB

Absotively, posilutely!


6,201 posted on 08/15/2005 6:16:29 PM PDT by RMDupree (HHD: Join the Hobbit Hole Troop Support - http://freeper.the-hobbit-hole.net/)
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To: JenB; All

Thanks...considering this is the one they said they had over forty other applicants for...I figure it'll take a miracle for me to end up in the top three (the only ones interviewed), but maybe we can pull off a miracle? Possible, I s'pose.


6,202 posted on 08/15/2005 6:20:07 PM PDT by RosieCotton ("Fallacies do not cease to be fallacies because they become fashions." - G. K. Chesterton)
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To: RMDupree

Sounds like SOX to me. No rule is too ridiculous. No over-the-top excess of documentation is ever too stupid.

I sit in these meetings about new SOX guidelines, and somebody in charge makes some smarmy comment about how "valuable and useful" this is and how "worthwhile" all these controls are...

Usually, I'm able to stifle the laughter. Sometimes not.

My Boss, the CFO, was b!tc#ing to me just the other week about now much our SOX consultants were costing us. And about how SOX compliance costs us not JUST the consultants and the corporate auditors, at several hundreds of hours EACH, but then... magically... complained about how it takes FOUR MONTHS of [yours truly] time and another FOUR MONTHS of our controller's time... EVERY YEAR... to deal with SOX.

That's when I ~really~ had to stifle my laughter. You're just ~now~ catching on to this? You've bragged about what a good thing this was for how long... ???

Four months of every year. That's what SOX is.

The Boston tea party happened over so... so... less than this.


6,203 posted on 08/15/2005 6:21:36 PM PDT by Ramius (Blades for war fighters: http://freeper.the-hobbit-hole.net)
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To: Ramius

Exactly.

Just when you think it can't possibly get any worse, it does.

~sigh~

I truly believe the company is headed for a HR disaster when folks like me just get so fed up with the day to day crap, we just find something else that pays just as well with half the headache.

And then they won't be able to hold on to anyone new because new hires won't be able to handle the same stupid hoops to jump through.

Why not just have the client sign a form stating that we cannot be held responsible for anything that gets hijacked in cyberspace when we send an e-mail with employee information?

If the hackers are THAT good, wouldn't they be able to hack into the secured server and grab all of the info all at once in one nice, convenient location?


6,204 posted on 08/15/2005 6:30:43 PM PDT by RMDupree (HHD: Join the Hobbit Hole Troop Support - http://freeper.the-hobbit-hole.net/)
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To: RMDupree

That's just it... the really good hackers-- the pros-- will never leave any tracks. After reading Kevin Mitnick's book a few years ago... I've become a little bit fatalistic about security. We spend millions on security and yet people throw out old employee directories in the trash.

Kevin would just dumpster-dive at his target company and pull out discarded employee directories. Then he's use that to start calling people in the company, pretending to be other people in the company... and sometimes he'd pretend to be from the IT department. He would simply ask people to tell him their password. Normally it only took five or six calls and somebody would give him their password.

Bam. He was in. No alarms. No penetration detection... just that simple.

Would that work at my company? Absolutely. We've got our quota of idiots, and it only takes one.


6,205 posted on 08/15/2005 6:44:04 PM PDT by Ramius (Blades for war fighters: http://freeper.the-hobbit-hole.net)
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To: Ramius

Nailed it. Precisely.

I'm really careful with my clients' information. I shred every night, lock up everything with personal info in my desk, clean out my inbox..everything.

I do it because I pride myself on doing what's right without being told. And I never want one of my client's employees to have their identity stolen because of my carelessness.

Even when we had camera guys wandering around taping a company promo, when one of them walked up behind me, I immediately covered the SS number on my screen and glared at the guy with an "are you an idiot?" look.

But there is only so much you can do. And I seriously doubt most of my clients put away all of their HR info as carefully as I do. *shrugs*

If someone wants the info bad enough, they'll get it. Inconveniencing your customers for the sake of a "sense of security" is just bad business sense.

Because "sense of security" is all they get. No guarantees anyway.


6,206 posted on 08/15/2005 6:56:53 PM PDT by RMDupree (HHD: Join the Hobbit Hole Troop Support - http://freeper.the-hobbit-hole.net/)
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To: Lil'freeper

Wow! You ARE close to Arlington. I had a feeling...

We were just at 6-flags on Saturday. BTW Sat. is the Worst day to go there. You are roughly an hour from me (45 mintues).


6,207 posted on 08/15/2005 7:06:43 PM PDT by Peanut Gallery
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To: Peanut Gallery; Ramius; All

Heading to bed, folks.

See you tomorrow!


6,208 posted on 08/15/2005 7:17:57 PM PDT by RMDupree (HHD: Join the Hobbit Hole Troop Support - http://freeper.the-hobbit-hole.net/)
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To: JenB

OK, we'll all be persistent widows tonight and storm those gates!!


6,209 posted on 08/15/2005 7:18:42 PM PDT by SuziQ
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To: RMDupree; HairOfTheDog; SuziQ; Lil'freeper; ksen; RosieCotton; JenB; g'nad; Bear_in_RoseBear; ...
And, so it begins...I've been home less than 48 hours...right?

Picture it. A dwarf walks into his house...

Whilst he's waitin' fer the Mrs. to get ready to go to a political event, he sits down to the computer. As he's being grilled over which earrings and which shoes, he's told "oh, by the way, we have no Internet."

Apparently during the day the lights flickered. It's been hot and stormy. So Comcast went out. Usually that requires just resetting (as I've done a couple of times already this evening).

So, rather than pulling the power cord (all that's required) apparently she says to Jr. "Just yank the flippin' cable right out of the modem," 'cause that's exactly what he did. I had to buy a new cable.

I swear I am not making this up.

And in the "three more weeks and I don't have to deal with this category" I got a complaint email on the pool today. The usual stuff, nothing new. Complaining about the guards not doing their jobs.

I was ~most~ diplomatic in my response. I told her that while her children may indeed be exceptional, most teenagers need to be told more than once and that we were continually having to remind our guards of their duties.

Then I invited her to be on the Board where she could be proactive in dealing with the issues.

When we got home from the event (see below for that one), I got a call from another Board member. A nayber had reported to her that apparently teenagers were making 900 calls from our phone at the pool. I'll be dealing with Verizon on that tomorrow because it was supposed to be local calls only. Plus we'll be removing phone access for the public.

And finally, I got interviewed by the local newspaper about this campaign. Short version, candidate sent a letter indicating that his opponent (an "Independent Republican RINO fill in the blank) had accepted $10,000 from a local gay businessman who had also given money to pro gay rights groups. This is a fact. He did NOT mention the businessman's name. But the newspaper reporter did when he ran the story. I was asked if I thought it would hurt the campaign.

The story is here

(Prayers Rosie)

6,210 posted on 08/15/2005 7:19:22 PM PDT by Corin Stormhands (Join the Hobbit Hole Troop Support - http://freeper.the-hobbit-hole.net/)
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To: RMDupree

Nite nite... don't let the "throw a saddle on-em' sized cockroaches" bite!!

:-)


6,211 posted on 08/15/2005 7:19:58 PM PDT by Ramius (Blades for war fighters: http://freeper.the-hobbit-hole.net)
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To: Corin Stormhands
"Just yank the flippin' cable right out of the modem," 'cause that's exactly what he did.

HA HA!

6,212 posted on 08/15/2005 7:23:00 PM PDT by HairOfTheDog (Join the Hobbit Hole Troop Support - http://freeper.the-hobbit-hole.net/)
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To: Corin Stormhands
Then I invited her to be on the Board where she could be proactive in dealing with the issues.

I assume she jumped with delight at that opportunity. /sarc

6,213 posted on 08/15/2005 7:24:15 PM PDT by SuziQ
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To: Corin Stormhands
"Just yank the flippin' cable right out of the modem,"

Oooh... I just don't know what to say to that. I know what I woulda done, and most of the worlds aren't repeatable on a family board.

6,214 posted on 08/15/2005 7:31:09 PM PDT by Bear_in_RoseBear (No other object has been misidentified as a flying saucer more often than the planet Venus.)
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To: Bear_in_RoseBear; HairOfTheDog
Oooh... I just don't know what to say to that. I know what I woulda done, and most of the worlds aren't repeatable on a family board.

I believe my feelings have been made known.

Perhaps I should make it clear that Jr. was doing exactly what he was told to do.

6,215 posted on 08/15/2005 7:32:42 PM PDT by Corin Stormhands (Join the Hobbit Hole Troop Support - http://freeper.the-hobbit-hole.net/)
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To: Bear_in_RoseBear
"worlds" should be "words".
6,216 posted on 08/15/2005 7:32:42 PM PDT by Bear_in_RoseBear (No other object has been misidentified as a flying saucer more often than the planet Venus.)
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To: Bear_in_RoseBear; JenB; RosieCotton; Ramius; ecurbh

Okay, not that I'm in a charitable enough mood to want to buy this for anyone right now. But I need to add more memory to the laptop. It's a Dell Inspiron 1100.

I don't even know where to start.


6,217 posted on 08/15/2005 7:33:41 PM PDT by Corin Stormhands (Join the Hobbit Hole Troop Support - http://freeper.the-hobbit-hole.net/)
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To: Corin Stormhands

Easiest bet is to buy it from Dell. Give them the service tag # and they'll have just the right thing to sell you. The truth is... they will probably give you a reasonable deal. Memory is just not expensive anymore.

You *will* however save a few bucks by cruising the lists... like Toms's Hardware or Craig's List. They'll have the same stuff at something of a discount.


6,218 posted on 08/15/2005 7:41:08 PM PDT by Ramius (Blades for war fighters: http://freeper.the-hobbit-hole.net)
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To: Ramius

Thanks. I'll check that out...when I'm more inclined to do so. ;-)


6,219 posted on 08/15/2005 7:41:58 PM PDT by Corin Stormhands (Join the Hobbit Hole Troop Support - http://freeper.the-hobbit-hole.net/)
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To: Corin Stormhands
Last place I worked, we usually ordered directly from Dell or sometimes from Kingston (links to other Kingston resellers there, too.)

And big mail order type places like CDW and PC Connection have memory configurators on their sites - just go the the memory section and usually there'll be a link to one of those, and you'll just need to input the model name.

6,220 posted on 08/15/2005 7:44:05 PM PDT by RosieCotton ("Fallacies do not cease to be fallacies because they become fashions." - G. K. Chesterton)
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