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Calif. man faints, dies after seeing epidural
Reuters ^ | 7-7-05 | Anon

Posted on 07/07/2005 1:20:28 PM PDT by Pharmboy

Los Angeles (Reuters) A California woman is suing a hospital for wrongful death because her husband fainted and suffered a fatal injury after helping delivery room staff give her a pain-killing injection.

Jeanette Passalaqua, 32, filed the suit against Kaiser Foundation Hospitals and Southern California Permanente Medical Group Inc. in San Bernardino County state court last week.

In June 2004, Passalaqua's husband, Steven Passalaqua, was asked by Kaiser staff to hold and steady his wife while an employee inserted an epidural needle into her back, court papers said.

The sight of the needle caused Steven Passalaqua, 33, to faint and he fell backward, striking his head on an aluminum cap molding at the base of the wall.

Jeanette Passalaqua delivered the couple's second child, a boy, later that day. Steven Passalaqua, however, suffered a brain hemorrhage as a result of his fall and died two days later, the lawsuit said.

The suit seeks unspecified damages related to Steven Passalaqua's death and to Jeanette Passalaqua's emotional distress at being widowed with two young children.

Because Passalaqua was solicited by Kaiser to assist in the epidural, the lawsuit said, the hospital "owed him a duty to exercise reasonable care to prevent foreseeable injuries resulting from his participation."

A spokesman for Oakland, California-based Kaiser Permanente called the death "a tragic accident."

"Some of the allegations in the lawsuit are simply that -- allegations. The legal process is under way and we should respect that," said Kaiser spokesman Jim Anderson.


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To: blue-duncan

"I don't understand why he had to be so nosy."

Thank you. You've gotten to the crux of this case.
This father-to-be was in the delivery room with his wife, as she was about to give birth to their child (a practice that was virtually nonexistent two generations ago, but now is ubiquitous), and a freak accident happens...and he's "nosy"?

I've seen more logical conclusions reached by fanatical pit bull defenders on this forum, and every one of them is seriously deficient.


161 posted on 07/07/2005 6:11:49 PM PDT by John Robertson
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To: ladyinred
Had there been a trained nurse there, this would not have happened.

Not necessarily. He could have felt just as light headed and faintied if the nurses had positioned / held the patient and he been standing in the corner. Staffing is a legitimate issue at most hospitals around the country. I know others disagree, but I don't see where staffing or his helping hold his wife in any way really plays into this scenario. As I mentioned in another reply, often people feel less lightheaded if they have something to do - a task to focus on (like holding his wifes hand etc), rather than the procedure. The real underlying question is should family members be in the room during any procedure - even if they think they want to and/or insist?

162 posted on 07/07/2005 6:13:08 PM PDT by not_apathetic_anymore
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To: soundandvision

Well, here's the thing.

I simply do not see any valid comparison in this father's death and the death of your father...other than, young wives and children were suddenly, tragically, without husbands and fathers.

The circumstances in no other way bear comparison, in my opinion. To thrash it all out, point by point, would be unseemly, to say the least, in light of your account of your father's death.

I have no desire to argue further with you, because your pain from the loss of your father is clearly still with you (please don't deny it, anyone who read what you wrote could see that), and I am often nasty and that is totally inappropriate now.

We have agreed to disagree on this issue, but please know that I have just offered a prayer for your father, as I did mine, also gone too young.

Safe Travel (I've been meaning to add this as my tagline for some time now, and just tacked it on; you get it first.)


163 posted on 07/07/2005 6:19:47 PM PDT by John Robertson (Safe Travel)
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To: not_apathetic_anymore

I was wondering how they figured out he fainted because of the needle. Couldn't it have been like you said--he was standing around and his knees locked? I've heard of this happening to people in weddings. Could it have been from lack of eating and getting light headed? Could it have been from the excitement of his wife having a baby? Even if he was known not to like needles, how do we know the sight of the needle caused him to faint?


164 posted on 07/07/2005 6:34:12 PM PDT by beaversmom
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To: Tax-chick

Ha, you're hopefully right. I actually think part of the problem is mine - hard to locate the correct spot; hence the taking on one side only.

Six? You're brave. :) How old are they now? Mine are 8, 4 and 2. Whew, I'm tired. Bet you're more so.


165 posted on 07/07/2005 6:35:21 PM PDT by agrace (Where were you when I founded the earth? Tell me if you know so much. Job 38:4)
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To: beaversmom
Even if he was known not to like needles, how do we know the sight of the needle caused him to faint?

Because it's not worth any money otherwise and the plaintiff's lawyer says so;-)

166 posted on 07/07/2005 6:36:38 PM PDT by not_apathetic_anymore
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To: John Robertson
I simply do not see any valid comparison in this father's death and the death of your father...other than, young wives and children were suddenly, tragically, without husbands and fathers.

Oh, I strongly disagree. This lawsuit is based on the fact that he was asked to help steady his wife and he couldn't handle the sight of a needle. My father smoked two packs a day of a product that is highly addictive (but, he knew the risks) and this (probably) caused him to die young. My point is, there are risks in life, we all take them. The key is not to find fault with someone else when your behaviour leads to your demise. Whatever happened to personal responsiblity?

"A man has got to know his limitations".

I have no desire to argue further with you, because your pain from the loss of your father is clearly still with you (please don't deny it, anyone who read what you wrote could see that), and I am often nasty and that is totally inappropriate now.

I can't deny that, I'm a grown man that still has issues with that moment in time. But I think that incident and my mother's reaction made me a stronger more self reliant person. Isn't that what America is -- a nation of strong self reliant people? Oh, wait -- I forgot -- we sue everyone now.

We have agreed to disagree on this issue, but please know that I have just offered a prayer for your father, as I did mine, also gone too young.

Fair enough, I don't ever pick fights, purposely. I definitely don't like to bring personal situations into an arguement; unless it helps me illustrate a point better and I feel this one helps me illustrate it -- in technicolor.

As the blO'hard woud say "I'll give you the last word". :)

167 posted on 07/07/2005 6:37:36 PM PDT by soundandvision
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To: John Robertson
"and a freak accident happens" That statement says it was not foreseeable and no liability attaches and the poor woman goes home with bubkus. What you should say, to be consistent in your theory of liability, is that the delivery room personnel should have been watching this nosy father-to-be for signs of faint since it was a foreseeable risk, especially when an epidural procedure is taking place.
168 posted on 07/07/2005 6:38:03 PM PDT by blue-duncan
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To: Kozak

I think you may be jumping to conclusions without hearing both sides of the story. Wouldn't want you on my jury.


169 posted on 07/07/2005 6:38:59 PM PDT by mlc9852
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To: rollo tomasi

So you blame a legal professional for doing his job? Ever been on jury duty?


170 posted on 07/07/2005 6:39:58 PM PDT by mlc9852
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To: rollo tomasi

If health care workers did their jobs professionally, maybe there wouldn't be as many malpractice suits. Yeah, blame the victim.


171 posted on 07/07/2005 6:42:50 PM PDT by mlc9852
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To: SALChamps03

I believe a jury would find the hospital negligent. I believe it's a legitimate cause of action.


172 posted on 07/07/2005 6:52:32 PM PDT by mlc9852
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To: not_apathetic_anymore

Well I just hope they don't get a dime out of this one. I feel sorry for the deceased guy, but he should have been in another room reading Sports Illustrated like someone else said. To bad we don't get do overs.


173 posted on 07/07/2005 6:54:06 PM PDT by beaversmom
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To: blue-duncan

dunc, give it up.
you misstepped when you called him "nosy."
that's not the case.
I explained it.
You didn't get it.
Let it go.
Get some sleep.


174 posted on 07/07/2005 6:55:07 PM PDT by John Robertson (Safe Travel)
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To: soundandvision

Well, if you're giving me the last word...good.
We're done, goodnight.


175 posted on 07/07/2005 6:56:14 PM PDT by John Robertson (Safe Travel)
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To: blue-duncan
"Some of the allegations in the lawsuit are simply that -- allegations. The legal process is under way and we should respect that," said Kaiser spokesman Jim Anderson.

IOW "we are in settlement negotiations which include a non-disclosure clause."

176 posted on 07/07/2005 7:10:13 PM PDT by P-Marlowe (A preposition is something you should never end a sentence with.)
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To: blue-duncan
According to the pleading, the hospital employees asked him to help. That kinda makes him a quasi hospital employee and thus he's either covered under the hosptial work comp policy or the hosptial must be treated as an uninsured employer thus giving rise to a civil cause of action and in many jurisdictions prohibiting the hospital from raising any issues of contributory negligence.

Tell me BD, if this poor widowed mother came into your office offering 33% of her recovery, would you turn her away?

177 posted on 07/07/2005 7:28:59 PM PDT by P-Marlowe (A preposition is something you should never end a sentence with.)
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To: John Robertson
Sorry, JR, can't go to sleep without helping this poor mother out. How about this, we allege "attractive nuisance" as the cause of the accident. Now stay with me JR, using your "ubiquitous" theory that even though in the past real men didn't go into the delivery room, now, since it is common place with this new generation, the hospital should have known this nosy father-to-be would be attracted to the delivery room activities and so the hospital should have anticipated the result, no freak accident, a foreseeable injury. Now JR, the beauty of this theory of "attractive nuisance" is it doesn't matter that the father-to-be was nosy. The burden is on the hospital. He did not have to wait in the "bull pen". He would be in a protected class. Well, I can retire now, thanks to your "ubiquitous" theory.
178 posted on 07/07/2005 7:29:02 PM PDT by blue-duncan
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To: P-Marlowe

I'm already on it! See Post #178.


179 posted on 07/07/2005 7:31:07 PM PDT by blue-duncan
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To: Pharmboy

There is a simple solution............

Show up for the delivery with a load on...............

worked for me.


180 posted on 07/07/2005 7:32:35 PM PDT by WhiteGuy (Vote for gridlock)
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