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To: hispanichoosier; ecurbh; HairOfTheDog

Freidn 1 is a nut. Absolutely a nut. It's not there.

The relationship between Sam and Frodo has its base in the master/servant relationship but there's more to it than that. Tolkien had a very high regard for male friendship.

ecurbh, I don't know if this should even get a ring ping but we could come dump on this poor guy.


14 posted on 06/24/2005 7:17:36 AM PDT by JenB
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To: JenB
The relationship between Sam and Frodo has its base in the master/servant relationship but there's more to it than that.

In the book, there is a strong development of a father-son relationship, but that was distorted, even reversed, in the films because of the director's decision to depict Frodo as a youth. (Don't get me started.)

34 posted on 06/24/2005 7:21:19 AM PDT by Tax-chick (Working Class Zero with wall-to-wall carpeting.)
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~sigh~ Here we go again...


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40 posted on 06/24/2005 7:23:03 AM PDT by ecurbh
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To: hispanichoosier; ecurbh; JenB

WHAAT?!!

Frodo is the kind master who releases his servant from his service at the end of the trilogy.
Sam is the loyal servant who faithfully tends to his, if you will, employer through all his trials.
Friend 1 has been drinking Mordor water.


46 posted on 06/24/2005 7:26:47 AM PDT by Darksheare (Hey troll, Sith happens.)
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To: JenB
The relationship between Sam and Frodo has its base in the master/servant relationship but there's more to it than that. Tolkien had a very high regard for male friendship.

Not only that, but it has to be looked at through the eyes of the person who wrote it (especially in this case, Tolkien's service in WWI, and his son's service in WWII) and the British take on male friendship in general.

To apply an American POV to this is just ignorant.
192 posted on 06/24/2005 2:22:07 PM PDT by af_vet_rr
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