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A place between Mars, Venus (Feminizing males, barf alert)
The Denver Post ^ | June 23, 2005 | Cindy Rodriguez

Posted on 06/23/2005 9:30:33 AM PDT by Millee

I knew I liked Brandon the moment I met him.

He's smart, stylish and warm. At a reception I attended Friday, he showered me with compliments and took me by the hand to introduce me to everyone he knew.

He made me feel special. It made me wish more men were like him.

A half-hour later, several female friends joined me at the reception, and within minutes they were surrounded by gregarious, good-looking men they had just met, laughing as if they'd known them for years.

The caveat: All the men were gay.It was a mixer for gay and lesbian journalists at the National Association of Hispanic Journalists convention in Fort Worth. I helped found the caucus for our gay members and went to introduce myself.

I assumed that my friends - four straight women - wouldn't want to go, but they wanted to support me. Turned out, we had a fabulous time.

As soon as we left, my friend Mónica blurted, "I just love gay men!"

"Aren't they great?" Marisol replied, speaking on behalf of every woman I know.

The rest of us - Jenny, Regina and I - counted the reasons we love gay men: They're funny, affectionate, creative, look good and know how to treat a woman.

OK, maybe not all gay men are. There are certainly misanthropic slobs among them, but they're not the gay men we were talking about.

The ones we idealize are the gay men we wish straight men would emulate.

It made me think: There's a lot straight men can learn from gay men.

It's not just "Queer Eye for the Straight Guy" lessons on fashion and cooking. Many gay men can connect with women on a deeper emotional level than most straight men.

They're not concerned with appearing resilient or independent. They tend to be more open than most straight men, even if it means revealing vulnerabilities. That makes them more human to us.

Decades ago, men fell into two categories: straight and gay. Straight men drank beer from a can and never wore sorbet-colored shirts. Closeted men who could get away with the charade fit into that category as well. Gay men, who were out, were obvious.

The paradigm was rigid. Hetero men feared being labeled gay if they dressed nattily or cried.

Shifts in society have helped prod men to get in touch with their feminine side. Men no longer bear the burden of being the sole breadwinners of their family. Single daddies are no longer rare. Just like women now bring home the bacon, men have learned to fry it.

The fluidity of societal roles has spawned the creation of terms to try to define these evolved men: metrosexuals, straight man acting gay, gay vague, ambiguous orientation.

These terms, and their reliance on defining men by clinging to stereotypes of what makes a man, show we're still hung up on labels.

It's understandable considering when a woman checks out a guy who is dressed impeccably, she wants to know: Is he attainable?

That's less of an issue for me. I figure a man who's straight will define his interest by his actions.

The bigger issue, beyond helping men realize it's tacky to wear white socks with black slacks, is getting macho men to understand that opening up is good for them and their relationships.

Many people have bought into the notion that men are from Mars and women are from Venus, making us think men can't learn to be more nurturing and women can't stop being so probing.

And that's not true. Just like men are buying exfoliating cream and wearing orange-sherbet shirts and matching orange ties, they're also learning to open up.

It might take many more generations for men to open up as freely as women do, but I have no doubt it will happen.

In the meantime, women can always get their emotional fix from the next-best thing: gay men


TOPICS: Society
KEYWORDS: barfalert; flamer; girliemen; homos; twobagger; wimps
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Just like men are buying exfoliating cream

Maybe some males are, MEN aren't!
1 posted on 06/23/2005 9:30:34 AM PDT by Millee
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To: Millee
There's a lot straight men can learn from gay men.

Yuck. No thanks.

2 posted on 06/23/2005 9:33:47 AM PDT by SIDENET ("You knew the job was dangerous when you took it, Fred.")
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To: Millee

The authoress is what used to be called a fag hag.


3 posted on 06/23/2005 9:36:07 AM PDT by GodBlessRonaldReagan (Count Petofi will not be denied!)
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To: Millee
As soon as we left, my friend Mónica blurted, "I just love gay men!"


4 posted on 06/23/2005 9:38:01 AM PDT by SIDENET ("You knew the job was dangerous when you took it, Fred.")
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To: GodBlessRonaldReagan
Like this:



5 posted on 06/23/2005 9:41:34 AM PDT by Millee (So you're a feminist......isn't that cute??)
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To: Millee
"gay men can connect with women on a deeper emotional level than most straight men."

Yea, they're gay.

6 posted on 06/23/2005 9:41:38 AM PDT by Deguello
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To: SIDENET
There's a lot straight men can learn from gay men

ummmm ... I think I'll pass on those lessons, thank you very much.

7 posted on 06/23/2005 9:45:58 AM PDT by softwarecreator (Facts are to liberals as holy water is to vampires)
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To: Millee
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8 posted on 06/23/2005 9:46:11 AM PDT by Dashing Dasher ( What was the best thing before sliced bread?)
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To: Dashing Dasher

LOL!


9 posted on 06/23/2005 9:49:53 AM PDT by Millee (So you're a feminist......isn't that cute??)
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To: Millee
Just like men are buying exfoliating cream

Who is?  I'm not.  No "guys" I know are doing this.  Please don't lump gays in with us.  We need to redefine our gender classifications.  It should be "Men", "Women" and "Others".

10 posted on 06/23/2005 9:50:09 AM PDT by softwarecreator (Facts are to liberals as holy water is to vampires)
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To: GodBlessRonaldReagan
The authoress is what used to be called a fag hag.

I don't think so, she's a lesbian. Aren't fag hags straight women who hang around with gay guys?

11 posted on 06/23/2005 9:50:41 AM PDT by Veto! (Opinions freely dispensed as advice)
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To: softwarecreator
"Men", "Women" and "Others".

We call them Shims (a contraction of She & Him).

12 posted on 06/23/2005 9:54:43 AM PDT by Dashing Dasher ( What was the best thing before sliced bread?)
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Major barf/later pingout.


13 posted on 06/23/2005 9:55:07 AM PDT by little jeremiah (A vitiated state of morals, a corrupted public conscience, are incompatible with freedom. P. Henry)
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To: Dashing Dasher

hahhaha .... we use to call them "HeeShees".


14 posted on 06/23/2005 9:56:01 AM PDT by softwarecreator (Facts are to liberals as holy water is to vampires)
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To: Millee

Hubby and I have been noticing more and more commercials for men's cosmetics....facial moisturizer specifically for men, that kind of thing.


15 posted on 06/23/2005 10:04:27 AM PDT by Roos_Girl
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To: Millee
Let me know when women decide what they want us guys to be.

Damned If I Know

16 posted on 06/23/2005 10:05:09 AM PDT by sharktrager (My life is like a box of chocolates, but someone took all the good ones.)
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To: Millee
some women or feminists, those attending this 'meeting', already hate real men to begin with...

females, not real women, such as these attending this whatever-it-was, are threatened by real men and are more comfortable with vacuous, empty-headed, fad-following, effeminate males.

17 posted on 06/23/2005 10:06:07 AM PDT by NoClones
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To: sharktrager

The ladies I know (including myself) want men to be men. John Wayne = good, Alan Alda = bad.


18 posted on 06/23/2005 10:07:37 AM PDT by Millee (So you're a feminist......isn't that cute??)
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To: Millee

Two-bagger barf alert.


19 posted on 06/23/2005 10:09:21 AM PDT by darkangel82
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To: Millee

The truth is that the typical woman has encountered straight men in their lives who had a lot of the qualities she talks about - thoughtful, extra considerate, honest, sincere, etc...

The typical woman has routinely rejected many men like that by the time she gets well into her adultgood.

I think that men like that are intriguing to women but tultimately aren't sexually exciting. The ideal for many women would probably be a guy like that to deal with her personally, and a guy like me to take care of her phsyically. ;-)


20 posted on 06/23/2005 10:10:55 AM PDT by HitmanLV
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