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And the other stupid part of this argument is that it would only matter if you lived in Washington state. His influence, were he to get elected would extend no further than the border of his state. I'm constantly amazed at how thoroughly these people believe they're the center of everyone's universe. They've got to be one of the most ineffectual groups on the planet. What happened as a result of their little rally about the bogus memo? Nothing! Well, okay we all got a good laugh watching c-span. All that busy work of pouring over voter rolls? Nothing! In fact the only fraud that has actually been proved and documented was perpetrated by them.

Among themselves, they honestly believe all their letter writing, their pathetic little protests (that get smaller every time), teach-ins, etc. will change the course of history. They've conned themselves into believing they just need to "get their message out" so people will understand. The problem is, they're ignored because we tried their socialist crap and by the 80's realized it was garbage. The country has been moving to the right ever since. Even their invasion of the schools to try to seed our children with their nonsense is a failure. If these kids resemble any generation, it's that of their grandparents.

The standard line is...the US is the only industrialize/western, etc. country that doesn't (fill in your favorite progressive/liberal/socialist cause). All this illustrates is an utter lack of knowledge about who we are and where we've been. In our entire history, we have always charted our course in a different direction. Why found a nation just to be like everyone else? The cries about "taking their country back" are just as delusional as their belief in "stolen" elections every time one of their candidates loses. They never HAD the country...they invaded a political party (which is about as close as they're going to get) and have done a pretty darn good job of destroying that.

It doesn't surprise me that someone like Andy and his Andyliners (Charles, that's SUCH a PERFECT description) could convince them (with no evidence beyond cut-and-paste photo shop images) that he's dying and needs surgery. Their entire lives are based on false pretenses.

Cindie

"Even their invasion of the schools to try to seed our children with their nonsense is a failure. If these kids resemble any generation, it's that of their grandparents."

I think you are right. My niece and many of the kids in her school campaigned for Republicans this year. Most of their parents are Democrats. I thought it was great. My brother loved it. My niece turned 18 on election day. Not only did she vote but she was a poll worker. Several of her friends also worked the polls. Great kids aren't they?

If these kids resemble any generation, it's that of their grandparents.

A young Marine from my town was wounded recently in Iraq. He died last week as a result of his injuries. Here is a snip from the newspaper write-up:

Matt Mattek read a letter written by his brother, Lance Cpl. [John] Mattek, dated March 3, 2005, shortly before he was deployed to Iraq. The letter was also printed in the remembrance folders distributed at the funeral home. It contained instructions to be opened only in the case of his death, "otherwise I'll take it from U when I get back."
"The flag stands for freedom and I will defend her, no matter what the cause, because the cause is just paper work for the weak. It's the buddy to my left and right that will be defended by my hand, my blade, my bullet. I will fear no man no enemy. I will forego heaven if hell is where the fight is. I have done what I have done and I will do what I will do at the end of the day God will decide where my soul lay. Upon the arrival of this day there will be peace on the battlefield and at home. Thy shall not mourn my death, but celebrate my life. Because every man dies, but not every man really lives. I have lived...
U S M C
Infantry
LCPL Mattek, J.J.
Johnny
Semper Fidelis

There's a word for the Andyites in German, not quite translable into English, weltschmerz, a gloomy, romanticized world-weary sadness, experienced most often by the affluent white privileged classes who, not having to worry about making an honest living, indulge themselves in feeling sorry for themselves.

That pretty much defines the Andyites with the probable exception of the temporarily-useful dirty ben.

This was outside of my own time, but that was probably a pretty good description of all the rich white kids who turned into the "non-materialistic" hippies during the 1960s.

The difference between then and now, though, is that then, others in this large and complex society allowed those in the 1960s to influence society in general, whereas today such weltschmerz are marginalized, as well they should be, given their very tiny proportion of the population.

The new element here is anger and rage, because they think they "count," and it bothers them that they don't "count;" they can't drag the rest of us down with them, in an orgy of self-destruction.

But even though it is obvious to everybody else in the whole wide world, the weltschmerz, these rich white kids cling frantically and fanatically to this belief that they are the center of the universe; that their own needs and wants are more important than those of others.

Such as their loathing for those who wish to keep us--and the Afghanis and Iraqis--alive and free, or their mule-headed insistence that those who preferred Bush over Kerry are a minority and somehow managed to steal the election, despite the preponderance of evidence leaning heavily the other way (how many big-city Republican Party "machines" are there, by the way?).

Or their misguided contempt for the DUmmie FUnnies, which they began to grasp far too late, covers a world much larger than theirs.