What I do with some students who think like this is to suggest that they create an abstract painting (if it's so simple). Usually they find that the layering of color, composition and freedom of line is not so easy as it looks. Of course it as as easy as it looks. I've got some used paint trays that look remarkably like some of these types of paintings. Take some paint. Apply to canvas in random fashion. Sell for big bucks to people who've been snookered. Since it doesn't have to look like anything it doesn't matter how good your technique or talent is (after all, how would anyone know that you didn't want it to look exactly like that?)
(If you like what you do, take a picture and post if for me!)
I wish I had the time to try But I can guarantee that I wouldn't like anything that looked like anything on this thread so far. (I think I'd really enjoy painting/drawing although I have no talent in that direction at all. I can 'see' what I want but have never been able to translate that on to paper or other media. I send in those "learn to draw bambi' tests and they write me back telling me not to quit my day job. See, even the scam schools don't want me.) I have to take issue with another statement of yours(especially since I'm getting involved with the classical music ping list too).
me->While music is not necessarily representational (Although the best music is) it does have harmony and structure and flow. Else it is not music.
Have you listened to Schoenberg? It does not have harmony nor flow. The woman's voice doesn't even really sing, it kind of slides (it's called sprechtstimme....making up fancy words to justify art?).
I listened to "Columbine". My wife is laying in the hospital right now recovering from hip replacement surgery. There's a senile lady down the hall who sounds just like that.
Schoenberg is not music. It does however fit with the expressionistic type paintings as he had to be tripping out when he put the sounds together. (of course IMHO anyone who actually paid for that tripe would be accused of being on drugs also)
I stand by my statement. Music has structure and harmony and flow. Shoenberg has none. Therefore it's not music. Would fingernails on a chalkboard be music? Would the moanings and groanings of a senile old lady in pain be music? Sometimes a chain of ugly sounds is just a chain of ugly sounds. (Other times its rap)
Sometimes a chain of ugly sounds is just a chain of ugly sounds. You would love the "music" of John Cage. He has one piece I can actually play. It's called 4' 33". The pianist, with music, sits at the piano and plays NOTHING for 4 minutes and 33 seconds. It's the ambient sound of the audience that's the "music:" the coughs, the "what's going on?" etc.
I only play a section of that in class. It's fun. Is it profound? I doubt it. It derives from Duchamp's Fountain, the use of ready-made objects. How do you like it?
This is the beginning of the stress upon new ideas, rather than traditional form and content. I knew you'd love it. :)
"they write me back telling me not to quit my day job" I know you are probably just kidding, but it is still worth noting that Andrew Loomis (who was something of a genius at illustration during the first half and middle of the 20th century) was told by the professors at his art school that he should give it up and go home.
