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Apple to switch to Intel's PC chips~~ New chips will allow PC maker to lower prices
marketwatch ^ | June 6, 2005 1:44 PM ET | Jonathan Burton, MarketWatch

Posted on 06/06/2005 10:54:57 AM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach

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To: AZLiberty

I wouldn't count on an Intel-based PowerMac being faster OR cheaper. Apple will undoubtedly lock down the firmware so that it'll only run on their motherboards - in which case they still control the price.


41 posted on 06/06/2005 11:46:09 AM PDT by whatexit
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To: Golden Eagle
OK...this is a nitpick, but the FSF does indeed consider BSD-licensed software to be "free software."

It's just not "copylefted."

42 posted on 06/06/2005 11:55:18 AM PDT by B Knotts
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
I think there are some real mysteries in this move....things happening that are not yet apparent!

You're more right than you know. It's all about the DRM that's on Intel chips (rather, upcoming Intel chips). What better way would there be to sell movies thru the iTunes, er, iFlicks store.
43 posted on 06/06/2005 11:59:13 AM PDT by Bulwark
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To: Golden Eagle
Apple uses "open source", not "free software". Proprietary companies can imbed/utilize BSD-based "open source" into their products without having to give the golden goose away. Can't do that easily with GPL-based "free software", if at all.

BSD and Mach aren't GPL, but there is GPL software in OS X, especially in Server. Others, even though not GPL, have about the same terms of you must share if you want to redistribute. It's not giving away the golden goose, but a calculated decision to get able to get a lot of great tools with minimal effort. Let's see, you could build your own Web browser at great cost, license it at great cost, or tweak KHTML and use it to make Safari, just essentially giving your tweaks back to KHTML as payment.

44 posted on 06/06/2005 11:59:13 AM PDT by antiRepublicrat
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To: Bulwark
DRM that's on Intel chips

I'm drawing a blank on that, what is it?

45 posted on 06/06/2005 12:41:40 PM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach (This tagline no longer operative....floated away in the flood of 2005 ,)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

Digital Rights Management.


46 posted on 06/06/2005 12:46:01 PM PDT by whatexit
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To: antiRepublicrat; Golden Eagle

This is the last nail in the coffin of desktop Linux. Apple took Unix and made it usable. Linux developers have never really succeeded in providing the same ease-of-use and, since price isn't really an issue, I would expect users to go Apple before they go Linux. And that's good for America.


47 posted on 06/06/2005 12:52:04 PM PDT by Bush2000 (Linux -- You Get What You Pay For ... (tm)
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To: Bush2000

Will it run Firefox?


48 posted on 06/06/2005 12:54:18 PM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach (This tagline no longer operative....floated away in the flood of 2005 ,)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

Why wouldn't it?


49 posted on 06/06/2005 12:57:39 PM PDT by Bush2000 (Linux -- You Get What You Pay For ... (tm)
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To: Bush2000
Hey bush where is that grandma level app that causes dependency hell?
50 posted on 06/06/2005 1:01:42 PM PDT by N3WBI3
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To: Bush2000
You have already demonstrated youre pretty clueless when it comes to Linux, why to you keep pretending to know something! I use Linux and OSX (occasionally) one is no harder for a desktop user than the other..
51 posted on 06/06/2005 1:03:27 PM PDT by N3WBI3
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To: Yossarian

Ouch!


52 posted on 06/06/2005 1:08:41 PM PDT by Straight Vermonter (John 6: 51-58)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

Digital Rights Management... big brother on your PC, 24/7/365.


53 posted on 06/06/2005 1:10:19 PM PDT by Bulwark
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

Cell is modular, so of course it can run the PPC's instruction set. Of course, you can just swap out the primary processing unit and blammo, new instruction set.

In all practical purposes, the Cell has nothing to do with the PPC.


54 posted on 06/06/2005 1:13:08 PM PDT by Terpfen (New Democrat Party motto: les enfant terribles)
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To: Bush2000
This is the last nail in the coffin of desktop Linux.

It'll certainly make it harder for for most to justify going Linux, unless they're stuck with a bunch of old machines that they would have to replace or upgrade to run Windows XP. The security argument is gone since the Mac has good security too. The standards argument is gone since the Mac is extremely standards compliant. Stability? FreeBSD (OSX's core) is more time-tested and stable than Linux. The emotional anti-Microsoft argument is gone, since, obviously, Apple isn't Microsoft (although I think they'd be even more evil than MS if they had a monopoly).

I guess the only thing for people to get over is the "artist with a goatee" image of Mac.

55 posted on 06/06/2005 1:18:40 PM PDT by antiRepublicrat
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To: antiRepublicrat

This all depends on apple letting others make desktops for them. Nobody has ever went to linux over mac because of the price difference between a PPC, and an Intal chip..


56 posted on 06/06/2005 1:24:42 PM PDT by N3WBI3
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To: antiRepublicrat; B Knotts

If it was only about technical superiority, the Alpha chip would have been a bigger hit.


57 posted on 06/06/2005 1:29:04 PM PDT by sittnick (There's no salvation in politics.)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

This shouldn't be a big surprise - Jobs did the same thing when he ran NeXT in the 80's/90's. Went from Motorola to Intel CPUs. Yawn.


58 posted on 06/06/2005 1:33:13 PM PDT by Bosco (Remember how you felt on September 11?)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
What I didn't like about Mac:

1. Expensive hardware - looks like that is being taken care of.
2. Proprietary hardware - ditto
3. Lack of software titles - which brings me to my main point.

If Apple wants to put a world of hurt on Mircrosoft, they would make their machines dual boot-able. They could even build an advertising campaign around it. Present it like "We know you still HAVE to use a Windows-based computer for SOME things, but for everything else..."

They could even tout how when spyware slows down your Mac running Windows, just start the Apple Operating System and get back up to speed...

Since they now have a reputation for quality peripherals, they could easily compete in that arena and take even more market share away from Microsoft.

Competition is good. I'm glad Apple is finally seeing the light.

59 posted on 06/06/2005 1:56:51 PM PDT by Crusher138 (Support capitalism. Shop, buy, rinse, repeat.)
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To: AZLiberty

Yes, to that, I was going to buy a mac, I like the powerPC and prices were getting reasonable. Now I am not going to buy a mac any time soon if ever. If macs are just unix on an intel then may as well go freebsd or linux.


60 posted on 06/06/2005 1:58:51 PM PDT by jpsb (I already know I am a terrible speller)
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