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Windows 2000 users to miss out on IE 7
Cnet ^ | June 2, 2005 | Ingrid Marson

Posted on 06/02/2005 7:09:51 PM PDT by Panerai

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To: softwarecreator

True enough, becasue Win2K is hands down the best OS MS has ever produced. It's almost as if MS didn't even make it, that's how good it is.....


21 posted on 06/03/2005 5:22:43 AM PDT by Space Wrangler
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To: backhoe
Linux needs to do two things to be ready for prime time- be as easy to install as Windows ( pop in a CD, and follow the prompts ), and be able to work easily with Windows applications.

There are several distros that are easier to install than Windows--and it'll take less time.

OpenOffice.org will read and write MS Office files. GIMP works with just about any type of pic, and there are several sound mixing apps as well.

Check out my home page for a link to Windows-to-Linux apps equivalents.

22 posted on 06/03/2005 5:25:24 AM PDT by ShadowAce (Linux -- The Ultimate Windows Service Pack)
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To: Panerai

Another uptick in the use of Firefox.


23 posted on 06/03/2005 5:25:42 AM PDT by Tribune7
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To: Space Wrangler
...Win2K is hands down the best OS MS has ever produced.

I agree wholeheartedly. When I must use Windows, W2K is the only one I'll use.

24 posted on 06/03/2005 5:26:28 AM PDT by ShadowAce (Linux -- The Ultimate Windows Service Pack)
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To: backhoe
Just another reason to learn Linux. And I hate trying to have to teach myself another OS, but between this, and MS's new licensing schemes, I guess I'll have to.

If you're a Linux noob, you can't go wrong with Linspire, formerly called Lindows. The learning curve is nothing with this desktop Linux distribution. Although one could run servers with Linspire, it was designed for the desktop.


25 posted on 06/03/2005 5:28:20 AM PDT by rdb3 (Yeah, but what's it spelled backwards?)
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To: Panerai
IE 7, which will be available in beta this summer, will offer improved security features and basic tabbed browsing. It is also expected to offer improved standards support, including enhanced support for CSS 2 and PNG transparencies.

Its about damn time!

26 posted on 06/03/2005 5:32:27 AM PDT by N3WBI3
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To: softwarecreator
This is where a non modular approach can really get you. For some reason I dont doubt that MS is doing this because of the difficulty in backporting ie7, if it functioned in a truly modular way this would be much easier..

Dont fret if you want an up2date browser you can always use FireFox (which may get a big kick out of this..

27 posted on 06/03/2005 5:34:39 AM PDT by N3WBI3
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To: backhoe
backhoe

at least you waited until a time when Linux is a touch eaiser, many certs dont even require you to tecompile a kernel anymore..

28 posted on 06/03/2005 5:35:50 AM PDT by N3WBI3
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To: goldstategop
were not talking about 95..

were talking about 2000 and XP which are not only the same major kernel version (2000 = nt5, xp = nt5.1) they were released ontop of eachother!

This may force ten of thousands of business to upgrade to a desktop OS that is either the same agre as 2k or well um does not exist yet (longhorn). I dont blame MS for this, I just hope they dont let security on ie6 become any worse..

29 posted on 06/03/2005 5:44:40 AM PDT by N3WBI3
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To: Panerai
Can you say "Firefox", little boys and girls?



30 posted on 06/03/2005 5:52:13 AM PDT by StoneGiant
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To: Panerai

I'd like to see Microsoft get away from integrating the browswer into the O/S, which is directly causing this problem. On the other hand, Win2K is over 5 years old, and basically no vendor provides free support for operating systems that long in the tooth. The fact that it is that old yet still a reliable O/S for many is more of a plus than a minus.


31 posted on 06/03/2005 5:56:17 AM PDT by Golden Eagle
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To: backhoe
Linux needs to do two things to be ready for prime time- be as easy to install as Windows ( pop in a CD, and follow the prompts )

bh, just so you know this is more of a distro thing than a 'linux' thing.. Fedora, and I think Suse do this, insert a cd it automounts and opens a windows (using gnome or kde), click on the RPM and it will install and auto-resolve deps. The trick is this, it has to know where the deps are so its best to use a yum repository like dag (which has the app and all deps) and a gui app like GYUM to install software. Non of this fixes the lack of some softwre people prefer to have..

As for the install itself Fedora and Redhat have been there for years, all have a a gui with default buttons for a base desktop install..

32 posted on 06/03/2005 5:57:53 AM PDT by N3WBI3
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To: softwarecreator

I think its true with 'software assurance'. But I think for home users its probably not true. I know MS has shown interest in a model where you pay per year for use but I think bad reactions from users put that one away..


33 posted on 06/03/2005 6:00:08 AM PDT by N3WBI3
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To: Golden Eagle
XP itselef is creeping up on four years old, the two came out so close to eachother (within 2 years) that by the time businesses had switched from 9*/NT to 2K XP was already out and switching again would have been a nightmare.

I dont know what the solution is but waiting 4 years to replace a desktop o sit not it. If 2003 was not just a server edition (I may be wrong but I have never seek 2k3 'professional') than maybe you have a good 2.5 year break point..

34 posted on 06/03/2005 6:07:14 AM PDT by N3WBI3
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To: N3WBI3
Your first paragraph very nicely summarizes why most folks w/jobs & kids & yards to mow & houses to maintain & minimal free time will not likely bother with linux.

/.02

35 posted on 06/03/2005 6:08:44 AM PDT by tomkat
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To: ShadowAce
Check out my home page for a link to Windows-to-Linux apps equivalents.

Thanks- appreciate the info.

36 posted on 06/03/2005 6:09:52 AM PDT by backhoe
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To: N3WBI3
I know MS has shown interest in a model where you pay per year

I saw an article about this about 4 years ago, but it never happened.

37 posted on 06/03/2005 6:09:57 AM PDT by softwarecreator (Facts are to liberals as holy water is to vampires)
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To: rdb3
If you're a Linux noob, you can't go wrong with Linspire, formerly called Lindows. The learning curve is nothing with this desktop Linux distribution. Although one could run servers with Linspire, it was designed for the desktop.

Thanks- I'll remember that.

38 posted on 06/03/2005 6:10:53 AM PDT by backhoe
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To: Space Wrangler
Win2K is hands down the best OS MS

Agreed, my personal favorite.  One of my servers has had W2K running since 1999 and it's still going great.  Win XP is pretty decent but it crashes a bit too often.  Win.Net completely sucked and Win 2003 I don't use often enough to comment on.

For Linux, Mandrake 10.1 is the best I've come across.  I know they renamed it to something else, but I haven't used it yet.

39 posted on 06/03/2005 6:14:57 AM PDT by softwarecreator (Facts are to liberals as holy water is to vampires)
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To: tomkat

How so? a default install of frdora comes with a gui update agent and a gui platform for new softwre which auto installs deps?


40 posted on 06/03/2005 6:15:59 AM PDT by N3WBI3
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