Posted on 06/01/2005 5:22:45 PM PDT by UnsinkableMollyBrown
In my son's multimedia class - during the time for finals - they watched 2 hours of this movie, Star Wars Ep. 3. Teacher claimed to be a friend of George Lucas. He said it wasn't illegal, pirated, or downloaded. The menu on the dvd was not multimedia. Anyhow, what would you do? Nothing? Something? What kind of values are they teaching anyway. Never mind, don't answer the last question. :)
I'm not following, what's the problem exactly?
Are you a big supporter of the MPAA and on a personal mission to wage war against file sharing on their behalf? Hate Star Wars? Don't believe kids old enough to be in multi-media classes can handle a PG-13 flick?
I say this teacher just saved your kid the price of a $9.00 movie ticket. Perhaps a thank you post card is in order...
Longbow
Report it by letter to:
LUCASFILM
P.O. Box 10228
San Rafael, CA 94912
So, what other laws do you advocate breaking? It seems that you feel that you can pick and choose which ones apply to you.
"Yeah, but Jim Lovell's light-saber skills were totally lame. ;)"
LOL, friend. Really LOL. Really OL.
Our schools here in Norman offer multimedia classes and have their own TV station where they do the programming from on air to producing to filming to writing and everything else. My son took Media I and II and it helped him in English along with being able to get in front of a group of people and not be nervous. He is now a Graduate Assistant in English teaching Comp I and II and will soon be going for his PhD. That class was not a waste and taught skills that will last him a lifetime.
My youngest daughter is a Journalism Major also at The University of Oklahoma and the background of the two Media classes gave her a head start in journalism.
We have a media department in our public schools that districts from the around the Country visit to see how it is done -- it is top notch, taught by top notch teachers, and is no blow-off class. Media students from the University help the students as well.
My kids learned a lot more in the two media classes including responsibility and deadlines then they did taking all the math courses that they will never use again.
The teacher might be legit with this movie. My daughter's high school orchestra played an adaptation of movie score from a movie that came out two weeks before their contest. Turned out their director was good friends with the person who wrote the score and he adapted the score for her orchestra.
One of the directors from another school turned her in and got egg all over his face when she shoved the release in his face.
"So, what other laws do you advocate breaking? It seems that you feel that you can pick and choose which ones apply to you."
Okay, for starters, the 55 mile per hour speedlimit on most of the highways around me, the law banning lawn darts in my county, the mandatory seat belt laws, the law that technically makes it illegal for me to hang an airfreshener from my rearview mirror, etc, etc.
There are countless laws on the books people ignore or break each and every day. You probably break laws in the state/city/locality in which you live without even knowing it. There are infact far too many laws. So many completely ridiculous laws that are ignored routinely by millions of people with good reason has created an atmosphere of less respect for the idea and importance of the law in general. People tend to have less respect for the law when it goes from regulating and dealing with the important stuff to tackling nit-picky little problems that can be dealt with without the nanny state stepping in enacting new rules.
I am not even slightly sympathetic with the RIAA and MPAA. An acceptance that technology is changing rapidly and that they must change their business model rather than waste time and energy suing 12 year old kids is what is necessary.
Longbow
Well, I certainly would not want egg on my face. I am not going to say anything. I did find out another interesting tidbit from my son... the film had English subtitles across the bottom starting about 10 minutes into the film.
Here's something for all of you to watch. It's heartwrenching.
http://www.putfile.com/media.php?n=lettersfromwar
My daughter had illegal immigrants in her class, so put into perspective the amount illegality taking place in the schools and the lack of concern compared to now that listing to speech is becoming illegal, makes one wonder what the definition of a free country means, or at least who the free stuff is really being offered too, cause it ain't the citizens!
I like it.
I have finally found my justification to condone and support underage drinking (I'm not being sarcastic, I like your wording better then mine).
An acceptance that technology is changing rapidly and that they must change their business model rather than waste time and energy suing 12 year old kids is what is necessary.
That one I disagree with, A kid can rent DVD's or whatever, copy them, and distribute them for free whenever or wherever, we have a zerox machine, does that make it okay to copy books cover to cover and give them away?
"That one I disagree with, A kid can rent DVD's or whatever, copy them, and distribute them for free whenever or wherever, we have a zerox machine, does that make it okay to copy books cover to cover and give them away?"
Sure you could copy books. Most people wouldn't bother - afterall, they can go to the library and rent the book for free if they wished. Has the county library system found throughout the United States ruined book sales? The majority of people who are very interested in a particular book might chose to buy it because they deem it worth the money to have an original, rather than a pile of photocopies stapled together, on their bookshelf.
The MPAA could consider selling DVD's at more reasonable prices for one thing. Sell the original disks with additional value added extras. Make the movies available online with prices set low enough that people won't bother with ripped copies which may contain defects.
There are plenty of ways the RIAA and MPAA can rework their business models to make plenty of money without having to sue little kids.
"I have finally found my justification to condone and support underage drinking (I'm not being sarcastic, I like your wording better then mine)."
Personally, I tend to support the idea that 18 should basically be the age for everything. If you can die for your country in the armed services at 18, you sure as hell should be able to drink a beer legally. In my view, at 18 a person should be considered an adult at which time they can join the military, vote, drink and do whatever else adults are allowed to do.
I think drinking age being set at 21 is ridiculous, and does indeed lead to the very kind of law breaking I was talking about.
Longbow
Its completely possible it was a legit DVD transfer. GL has already publicly stated its coming out in six months... and since its digital filmed, a transfer to DVD would be really easy.
If its in the curriculum for the class what's the problem?
Actually, I didn't pull that example out of nowhere.
In college, some kids would actually do that, print whole sections ahead of time from the library to avoid paying for the text books.
Obviously the school doesn't like it, but as far I know (I've graduated) they didn't pull the text books from the library.
As one teacher pointed out though, the school, always wins in the end (money wise), they jack up tuition, and started charging for copies (and also for printing with computers).
As for DVD's, if the original disks have extra's, why not just copy them, one friend buys it, we all just bootleg the heck out it.
You got a point about reasonable prices, alot of folks (though not usually conservative) like the idea of price controls or okay "stealing" if its to expensive.
I personally feel I should be able to charge whatever I want for anything I write, produce, or create, and if its to much, then no one should buy it, it shouldn't be, one guy buys it, and then copies the hell out of it and resells it.
Thats just anti-capitalist.
As for the drinking age, I totally agree, we now have kids, who know its not right for them to be barred from drinking, but thankfully alot of them have the good judgement to know that this law is dumb.....If only I could get them to stop urinating in public, then I'll be happy.
It's an elective.
They fill the curriculum with crappy courses today instead of having students take more math, history, science and language. The result is half educated punks with a superficial knowledge of TV production or the history of Roock 'n Roll or whatever.
Welding or typing would be a lot better use of their time.
So9
Sounds like the foreign version. Interesting.
I would call the principle and ask why he's watching Star Wars instead of learning.
Relax and let it slide.
Education has turned into babysitting. Even at the high school level.
Teachers who play stupid movies instead of educating should be ashamed of themselves.
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