Posted on 05/28/2005 12:34:03 PM PDT by ambrose
Cops shoot family dog
Family upset after incident in backyard
By Melissa Pinion-Whitt
Staff Writer
Thursday, May 26, 2005 - ONTARIO - A police officer investigating a fraud case shot and killed a dog in a residential backyard Wednesday.
The 6-year-old boxer named Rocky charged at the officer when he entered the backyard in the 900 block of West G Street around noon. Police were at the home to interview a man suspected of credit card fraud and walked into the backyard because they saw him and suspected he might try to flee.
"The officer felt the dog was going to attack him, so the officer shot the dog," said Ontario police Detective Al Parra. "The officer, in backing away, trips on something and falls down on his back. He sees the dog still coming, so he fires two more shots, which killed the dog."
Family members, who were devastated by the shooting, said the dog was just doing what he was trained to do: protect the property.
"He never bit anybody. He's never hurt anybody. All he's ever done is guard his home and protect his family," said Martin Pina, who lives at the home with his wife and five children.
Martin's daughter, Gloria, said the dog was always obedient and wouldn't even run away if the family accidentally left the gate open.
"It wasn't just a dog to us. He's one of us," she said.
Police came to the home looking for Gloria's brother, Mario Pina, 23. The officer heard loud music and saw the man in the backyard, where he was doing yard work. The officer shouted at him, and when Pina didn't respond, he entered the backyard, Parra said.
Pina was arrested on suspicion of fraud and burglary and was booked into West Valley Detention Center.
Parra said it is not common that officers shoot dogs, but it sometimes occurs during arrests.
"The officer has a right to protect himself. He has a right to use deadly force if he feels he's about to be attacked by an animal."
Martin Pina argued that police shouldn't have been in his backyard because they didn't have a warrant or authorization to be there.
Police said they don't need a warrant to go into someone's backyard if they are at a residence to make an arrest and see the person in the backyard. Officers need warrants to go into someone's home, Parra said.
The incident is being investigated as an officer-involved shooting. The officer, whose name was withheld pending the outcome of the case, was not placed on administrative leave, Parra said.
Melissa Pinion-Whitt can be reached by e-mail at m_pinion-whitt@dailybulletin.com or by phone at (909) 483-9378.
MOST cops are dirty.
One easy way to tell is to look at statisically significant surveys of corruption. For example, 80% of CHP chiefs retire in disability.
That means that, even compared with the typically fraudulent and corrupt disability retirement rate for cops, CHP chiefs are Kings of Corruption. They are literaly bigger felons, in terms of ill gotten gains, than 99% of drug dealers.
Cops lie and defraud casually, because they think they are entitled, and because they think they will never be called to account. No matter what rock you turn over in law enforcement, you find corruption. The only difference between US and Mexico cops is that US cops find it easier to defraud the system and taxpayers as a class than to engage in retail corruption, though plenty of them do that, too.
And the whole Catholic Irish cop thing is passe: corruption among cops knows no race or sex boundary. Why do you ask?
Yes I can easily draw such a distinction. Now, can you draw the distinction between a cop that can handle the arrest of a non-violent suspect without discharging his firearm and a fool that can't? The VAST majority of us can.
Were you and I to meet in person, I somehow believe you would be sqealing like a little pig.
Of course States have the power to enforce the laws--but they are Constitutionally prohibited from violating anyone's rights in the process. Just because they are enforcing the rules gives them no license to disobey them themselves.
If he was approaching the rogue cop, it was almost certainly with intention of licking him.
(If what I just wrote makes you sad or angry,
Otherwise our introduction will likely be at gun point. I would hope noone would be killed, but my finger would be on the trigger. If a dark figure in my fenced area reacts to 'freeze a$$#@$2' by doing anything other then freezing I will feel my life is threatened. If he already shot my dog I will come out shooting. Even if he identifys himself after shooting my dog he better be prepaired to drop his gun. Anybody can say they are cops.
Yes, if the circumstances justify it. All armed tresspassers should have the same legal status. Of course, I do not advocate the automatic shooting of armed tresspassers as the default, expected or optimal policy. The property owner should be able to demonstrate reasonable cause to fear for his life, based on the situation and the actions of the tresspasser. If the owner knows it's a cop (or anyone else) attempting to enforce the law and/or apprehend a miscreant, and that can be proven, he should not in such a case be immune from prosecution and conviction for murder.
Boxer attacks against humans are exceedingly rare.
Note that it took you so long to google up even those meager examples (Boxer mix? Yeah, right).
The article never says that the rogue cop was even threatened or approached by the dog.
Even the rogue cop and his bretheren don't make the charge (although I am sure the official report will state how ferocious the dog was before the brave cop blew him away).
The rogue cop was in the wrong. Period.
(If what I just wrote makes you sad or angry,
Perhaps you could address the fact that 80% of CHP chiefs are defrauding the system? Minus of course the tiny % that actually becomes disabled working as a chief. The chiefs are stealing from the truely disabled officers. The inevitable conseqence of such corruption is a cutback on disability pensions.
It's easy to see how much respect we should give the police. Just watch what the police do. How much respect to cops give internal affairs cops? That's how much respect they say we should give them (do as they do, not as they say).
As a chief?
Their job is mostly administrative. As I said upthread the chiefs are stealing from the mouths of truely disabled officers and their widows and children.
(If what I just wrote makes you sad or angry,
A Boxer CHARGED AT the rogue cop?
Big deal.
That's what Boxers do, tongue hanging, tail wagging, eager to meet the new friend.
Nothing even remotely suggests that the dog ATTACKED the rogue cop.
The best the his buddies could come up with was "The officer has a right to protect himself. He has a right to use deadly force if he feels he's about to be attacked by an animal."
According to this cop, the rogue cop "felt" threatened. His wimpy feelings doomed an innocent animal and deprived a family of a beloved pet.
I have no knowledge of CHP chiefs. Have made no allegations and made no comments on this thread about it. You have knowledge of corruption? Then report it.
(If what I just wrote makes you sad or angry,
Its about what toys we can extract from the taxpayer and how much money.
Is that true? Does the warrant only apply to a home, without respect to other private property? Officers may trespass?
I didn't say that the rogue cop should " have let the dog do whatever he wanted to," I merely stated the glaring fact that not even the other cops said he was attacked.
I also never said that "humans are of equal value," and how you could infer that from my posts is bizarre. Pretty pathetic attempt at a PETA blast, btw.
the officer will be shortly vindicated
Of course he will. The official report will start something like: "There I was, all alone and confronted with a vicious, bloodthirsty, Cujo-like Hound of Hell........."
and dogs of felons citizens that attack police officers are minding their own business in a fenced backyard will continue to be put down shot by wimpy LEOs with a shoot-the-dog fetish.
LOL!
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