Posted on 05/26/2005 4:46:34 AM PDT by Chairman_December_19th_Society
McCain is delusional if he thinks he can win the Iowa Caucuses. Our caucuses are dominated by the religious right.
Statewide Christian and Family organizations have been slamming Johnny Boy for the last 48 hrs. My email box has been loaded with messages from them AGAINST McLame.
He can't possibliy be so ignorant or so arrogant, as to think he can win here.
The stories I've been reading indicate McLame will SKIP Iowa entirely, because he knows he can't win here. Where are you picking up this information Tator?
I was going to comment on the Norman/French influence on English, but then I found this website: A History of the English Language
Here's an excerpt that's relevant to your comments:
The influence of the Normans can be illustrated by looking at two words, beef and cow. Beef, commonly eaten by the aristocracy, derives from the Anglo-Norman, while the Anglo-Saxon commoners, who tended the cattle, retained the Germanic cow. Many legal terms, such as indict, jury, and verdict have Anglo-Norman roots because the Normans ran the courts. This split, where words commonly used by the aristocracy have Romantic roots and words frequently used by the Anglo-Saxon commoners have Germanic roots, can be seen in many instances.And check this out: The Lord's Prayer in Old English (ca 1000)Sometimes French words replaced Old English words; crime replaced firen and uncle replaced eam. Other times, French and Old English components combined to form a new word, as the French gentle and the Germanic man formed gentleman. Other times, two different words with roughly the same meaning survive into modern English. Thus we have the Germanic doom and the French judgment, or wish and desire.
A lot of people refer to King James English and Shakespeare as examples of Old English, but that's early Modern English. Old English predates Shakespeare by well over 600 years.
OK, this geeky linguist is done for the day. Don't miss the fun at the thread about the Tennessee lawmakers who got cuffed. Harold Ford announces his plans to seek Frist's senate seat and the next day his goofy uncle gets arrested for bribery AND extortion. LOL!
That's interesting. Thanks for the links.
Sounds more German or Pa Dutch to me.
It should--Old English is more related to German than Latin.
I assumed as much it was easier for me to learn German than Spanish.
I watched George Allen then went shoe shopping!
Debri bin gets delivered first thing tomorry morning so today is MY day off...lol. Fabulous sales (Memorial Day) so I bought 3 pair. :)
Completely understandable!
So you have three boxes of shoes to add to the move..:-)
Dog--go to the thread in #129. It's a hoot! (Not really trying for shameless self-plug--the comments of others are hillarious!)
FOTFL! Yes, plus two white jackets, 4 pair of jeans (this moving/packing) made me drop another size and I went ahead and bought some cotton blouses too.
Are you watching C-SPAN? That Voinovich is slamming the heck out of Bolton.
Let me see if I can postulate what McCain and Graham must have known going in for what you say to be true.
They must have sat down and reasoned as follows. Lets get 5 other Republicans to make a deal with the Democrats. That will ensure that the religious right will do what ever it takes to keep us from getting the Republican nomination. And lets do it so every elected Republican from school board member to president gets inundated with email, mail, and phone calls trashing us and Republicans in general. That will ensure that all the elected Republicans will oppose us, in order to not go down in defeat with us.
On top of that we can earn the undying anger of the President, and most of the elected republicans in Washington and every state capital. If we make a deal with the Democrats we can insure that at least 200 House members and Republican state party officials will do all they can to see that we are never get the nomination...
Is that the thought process they envisioned? If they knew it would blow the religious right, they had to know it was a disaster. Could they have known what was to come and still have done what they did?
I think McCain like Kerry and much of Washington believes that as "so goes the media so goes the nation." We know it is a fallacy ... but they don't.
I think they believed the media would be with them. And the media would convince the voting public that they were great public servants working to overcome the great obstacles that are holding our nation back. I think McCain and Graham believed that as a result of this magnificent example of negotiating skills and statesmanship that every newspaper and TV station in Iowa and the USA for that matter, would hold them up as the great American heros of the Senate. That this great act of statesmanship would overcome the image that doomed McCain in Iowa in 2000.
I think they believed the grass roots once aware of their great accomplishment would rise up to demand that they be awarded the Republican nomination in 2008. That this time they would be recognized as the heros they so richly deserve to be. They had to believe that making a deal with the Democrats to get some nominees confirmed was a great idea that would pay political benefits in 2006.
I don't know what their motivation and prediction of the results could have been other than the second scenario. If they believed the second scenario they believed they could win both Iowa and South Carolina.
If they believed even a portion of the first scenario they would never have done what they did.
As far as rumors of states not to be contested...? They are just that rumors. And like Mark Twain said, "Rumors of my death are greatly exagerated." No one makes a real decision this far out about Iowa, New Hampshire or anywhere else. McCain knew he could not beat Bush in Iowa in 2000. McCain decided he could win New Hampshire. He wanted to win it big. And if Kerry challenges Hillary, there will be no cross over Democrats voting for McCain in 2008 primaries.
McCain does not even know who his competition in Iowa will be in 2008. Only when candidates know the nature of the opposition do they decide which states to contest.
Moving is stressful I'll say....:-)
Jemian, how're you doing? And your book??
About an hour ago...the clouds were very unusual in their appearance & form...something to do with upper level winds, I guess, but I found them fascinating to the point I almost hit the car ahead of me!
I'm listening to the Mansions of the Lord....very haunting song.
It sure is....is the Bolton vote postponed til tomorrow??
Not sure....I don't have it on....I'm follwing the live thread ...better for my BP.
okay...6 p.m. cloture vote tonite, then final vote...
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