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Star Wars Episode 3 1/2? Inconsistencies? Anakin ain't Mannikin anymore! (SPOLIER)
5/22/05 | Conservatrix

Posted on 05/22/2005 7:45:44 AM PDT by Conservatrix

For those who have seen Epsiode 3, will there be a 3 1/2? Click though to comments... I don't want to post my spoilers where those who have not seen it will see....


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To: Cowboy Bob
How tall is the actor who plays Anakin (since he ends up being Darth)?

I don't think that matters, since Obi-Wan hacked off about a foot and a half from his height. ;)

61 posted on 05/23/2005 5:13:42 AM PDT by Lunatic Fringe (North Texas Solutions http://ntxsolutions.com)
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To: Conservatrix

Leia becomes a "princess" because she is the adoptive son of Bail Organa, a member of the Alderaan royal family. The royal family also fills in the role of "Senator" in the Republican (and later the Imperial) Senate. hence, Leia was passed off as the daughter of Bail Organa, a princess.


62 posted on 05/23/2005 5:18:08 AM PDT by Lunatic Fringe (North Texas Solutions http://ntxsolutions.com)
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To: ConservativeLawyer
And how does Vader eventually learn that Luke is his son?

Remember that in "The Empire Strikes Back," the emperor tells Vader "There is a new threat. Luke Skywalker." And Vader says he felt it as well. Then the Emperor says "The son of Skywalker cannot be allowed to become a Jedi."

63 posted on 05/23/2005 5:21:32 AM PDT by Lunatic Fringe (North Texas Solutions http://ntxsolutions.com)
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To: GulfWar1Vet
There was one inconsistency that I saw. Luke and Ben are at Ben's home and Ben is starting to open a chest and he was speaking to Luke that Anakin wanted to give Luke his lightsaber. ... Where in III did Anakin say that? No where.

I don't see it so much as an inconsistency. I see it more as an omission.

You recall in Empire Strikes Back wherein Luke declares to Obi Wan, 'you told me Vader killed my father', and then Obi Wan goes on to say that in a manner of speaking, Vader did kill Anakin. It would seem Obi Wan has a way of bending the truth to fit his agenda.

In Episode IV, Obi Wan may have told Luke that Anakin wanted to give Luke his lightsaber because it fit an agenda to move Luke along the path to becoming a Jedi. Also, since Obi Wan thought of Anakin as a brother, he may have thought of Luke as his nephew or son.

64 posted on 05/23/2005 5:35:37 AM PDT by new cruelty
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To: new cruelty
A HUGE plothole is when Obi-Wan says to Yoda "That boy is our last hope." And Yoda says "No, there is another."

Hello! Obi-Wan was there at the birth, he should have known this.

65 posted on 05/23/2005 5:48:00 AM PDT by Lunatic Fringe (North Texas Solutions http://ntxsolutions.com)
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To: Conservatrix

I think you put a lot of thought into this.

Regarding point 1, Your scenario is as good as any. Another possibility is that Leah may have referred to her adoptive mother as her real mom. Or Leah may have retained some memory of being in the womb or of birth and sensed her mother.

Regarding point 2, I think the viwer is left to presume that at some point between episode 3 and 4, Obi Wan learned the power of immortality from Qui Gon Jinn.

Regarding point 3, Vader didn't ask about the baby because he may have felt in his premonition that the baby had died. At that point, he may have realized that the death he forsaw and he sought to prevent, to the point that he had given himself to evil, was actually caused by his own hand. Palpatine / Sidious looked as if he was feeding off of Vader's anger. He may have chosen to tell Vader only enough to fuel Vader's anger.

In any case, I don't think these points merit an Episode 3 1/2.

I thought the acting was good, but bone of it was oscar worthy (with the exception of General Grevious, I'm kidding).

Did you catch a glimpse of the Millenium Falcon? I thought I saw it in the mid-to-lower right corner of the screen during one of the daylight scenes of bustling city.


66 posted on 05/23/2005 5:56:17 AM PDT by new cruelty
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To: GulfWar1Vet

"Am I right about this or am I tripping? LoL"

I think the 'vader is luke's father' plot actually was part of the background of the first movie (lucas has always claimed so, and it fits), so presumably the kenobi hesitation when asked how lukes father died, along with the outright lie about the origin of that light saber, were actually meant to be lies and not just lucas doing crappy writing for the prequels.


67 posted on 05/23/2005 6:07:01 AM PDT by WoofDog123
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To: Lunatic Fringe

ESB actually vader was looking for skywalker by name from the beginning, when the probe reported on the hoth system.


68 posted on 05/23/2005 6:08:39 AM PDT by WoofDog123
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To: Conservatrix

I tried watching Ep II last night. Feh.




Good writing and acting the new episodes do not have. Matchup to the first three they do not. Community dinner theatre actors they are missing.


69 posted on 05/23/2005 6:10:39 AM PDT by Petronski (A champion of dance, my moves will put you in a trance, and I never leave the disco alone.)
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To: Lunatic Fringe

Good point. It may have been that Obi-Wan was so focused on Luke becoming a Jedi that he forgotten that Leah would also have her father's prowess with the force. Yoda's comment simply put his view back into focus. But I haven't watched ESB in a while so I don't remember Obi-Wan's reaction to that comment. Maybe it was one of surpise like - Really? Another? Who is it? - or maybe it was one of - Oh, yeah... Leah... She completely skipped my mind! : )

Thinking back, the only scene I recall that Obi-Wan and Leah shared was in Episode IV wherein Obi-Wan is watching a hologram of Leah.


70 posted on 05/23/2005 6:22:13 AM PDT by new cruelty
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To: Conservatrix
Well, medical science is considerably more advanced in the Star Wars universe than in ours, so presumably they have found a way to make childbirth easier.

Though strangely, in the case of both the Emperor and Darth Vader, they don't seem to have invented plastic surgery yet. ;)

71 posted on 05/23/2005 6:29:22 AM PDT by Mr. Jeeves ("Violence never settles anything." Genghis Khan, 1162-1227)
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To: needsomereason

Yes it is. But it's something fans can dissect and discuss. Like baseball, or even - politics.


72 posted on 05/23/2005 6:55:17 AM PDT by PzLdr ("The Emperor is not as forgiving as I am" - Darth Vader)
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To: new cruelty
> It would seem Obi Wan has a way of bending the truth to fit his agenda



Maybe that is what
is going on in Bill's head --
thinks he's a Jedi . . .

73 posted on 05/23/2005 7:19:11 AM PDT by theFIRMbss
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To: Conservatrix
Mr. Peel brought up the fact that Luke was staying with his Uncle on his father's side ... yet no mention in the later sagas about Annikin's brother.
74 posted on 05/23/2005 7:23:17 AM PDT by MrsEmmaPeel
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To: Mr. Jeeves

This is definitely true!


75 posted on 05/23/2005 9:22:58 AM PDT by Conservatrix ("He who stands for nothing will fall for anything.")
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To: MrsEmmaPeel

Yes. Another inconsistency.
It would have been better if Lucas had acutally connected ALL the dots, not just some...


76 posted on 05/23/2005 9:24:13 AM PDT by Conservatrix ("He who stands for nothing will fall for anything.")
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To: new cruelty

You make good points. I just personally would have liked more actual continuity to the next 3 episodes...

I still think Christiansen was incredible this time!


77 posted on 05/23/2005 9:27:33 AM PDT by Conservatrix ("He who stands for nothing will fall for anything.")
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To: Lunatic Fringe

This makes sense. THANKS.


78 posted on 05/23/2005 9:34:32 AM PDT by Conservatrix ("He who stands for nothing will fall for anything.")
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To: Conservatrix

My explanation: Leia's memory & Luke's certainty that there "is still good" in Anakin are both Force-impressed on them at birth.


79 posted on 05/23/2005 9:37:21 AM PDT by Sloth (I don't post a lot of the threads you read; I make a lot of the threads you read better.)
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To: GulfWar1Vet
Where in III did Anakin say that? No where. After Ben defeated Anakin, Ben did pick up Anakin's lightsaber, but Anakin didn't say anything about giving his lightsaber to his son, Luke. Heck, he didn't even know that he had a son, or twins at that moment of time!

That's just old Obi-Wan lying, as is his habit.

80 posted on 05/23/2005 9:45:40 AM PDT by Sloth (I don't post a lot of the threads you read; I make a lot of the threads you read better.)
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