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To: Jaysun

We have to face the truth and dump this Ponzi scheme altogether. End all Social Security taxes, let people provide for their own retirements, and let charity take care of the indigent.


5 posted on 05/13/2005 8:48:50 PM PDT by thoughtomator ("One cannot say that a law is right simply because it is a law.")
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To: thoughtomator
We have to face the truth and dump this Ponzi scheme altogether. End all Social Security taxes, let people provide for their own retirements, and let charity take care of the indigent.

Agreed. You know Grover Cleveland caught a lot of hell for vetoing a bill to appropriate $10,000 to distribute seed grain among drought-stricken farmers in Texas. He wrote, "Federal aid in such cases encourages the expectation of paternal care on the part of the Government and weakens the sturdiness of our national character." The farmers got $100,000 from private charity.

We do need to end it altogether. The problem is that the Democrats are great at clouding the water. It's probably wise to go in steps - half now, the other half when everyone figures out how damned stupid we've been.
7 posted on 05/13/2005 8:54:56 PM PDT by Jaysun (No matter how hot she is, some man, somewhere, is tired of her sh*t)
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To: thoughtomator

Hello Thoughtomater, - I really like some of Your thoughts. Like; 'Just because it is a law doesn't make it a good law'. Now on Social Security. Yes, it does have some Ponzi-ism to the process. But, IF, the anti-Americans in Congress had not have stolen from the Fund then all those receiving SS checks could get big raises today. That money was paid in by working Sovereign Citizens and their employers;- not by all of the people in general. So that money does not belong to the people or the Federal government to use in any way! If the funds from 1970 up until 2000 had been invested at a paltry and immorally low 7-8 percent, plus with compounding, there would be approximately 4.5 Trillion$!! Continuing that Trust management, Social Security and SSDI recipients could today receive 30-40% raises,- and still would continue to have plenty until after the baby-boomer boon. WOW! The Federal government terrorists should be held liable for this theft. Lock the box immediately; raise SS taxable income to $150,000; raise retirement 1 year; invest the Fund wisely. - And imprison and/or fine the thieves. Also, banish the anti-American terrorists in DC whom put us into todays debt. - one more thought: the $200 Billion spent on war-games by W, would have bought and paid for 2,500,000 homes for our poorest families. These homes, plus the billions $ of household goods needed would have boomed our economy and job-base !! Plus allowed much of the low-income workers to have more for medicine, children, education, food, cars, etc.! What a mis-direction of capital, and an immoral terrorist attack upon our Country's Sovereign Citizenry. - God Bless America..


8 posted on 05/14/2005 6:24:58 AM PDT by PaineInTheButt
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