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It's been a blast but it's time to say goodbye (GOPcap's opus)
4/20/04
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Posted on 04/20/2005 9:22:15 AM PDT by GOPcapitalist
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To: hocndoc
"That's easy - Greer should have allowed oral hydration."He couldn't. He rejected it because the motion was filed as part of an appeal for experimental procedures, which had already been rejected by the court. It's in the second paragraph of the order.
The bottom line is that the motion to allow oral hydration was improperly filed. That's not the judge's fault, no matter how much you want to blame him.
To: robertpaulsen
Re-read the first paragraph. The petition was for food and water by natural means. Greer *decided* (after reviewing 'portions' of statements by doctors) that it was 'part and parcel' of a prior petition and not to do 'indirectly what it has not done directly.' It is not surprising that the arguments for food and water as a trial are the same for food and water for comfort.
Greer was not impotent. He intended to cause the death of a woman whose intentions he had determined.
And so he and the entire Judiciary system in Florida murdered a woman and much of my faith in our government.
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posted on
04/20/2005 8:59:58 PM PDT
by
hocndoc
(Choice is the # 1 killer in the US)
To: GOPcapitalist
"by a small, petty-minded, and vitriolic group of posters who conduct themselves in a manner unbefitting of what this forum used to be"
Oh geez, not another one! What the hell is wrong with you old timers? Do you really have to have your cake and eat it too? For crimanny sakes, do you really think your opinions mean so much to the rest of us that we can't do without you?
Talk about self appointed important, what the hell is your problem?
Life is a struggle, period. It's not supposed to get easier, it's supposed to get more difficult, if you strive to educate yourself. It is very easy to be ignorant. What the hell did you think, this was going to turn into your own personal forum? If you can't understand that it takes all of us to make a whole, then perhaps it is better that you leave.
Just by the pure fact that the older this forum gets and the more members it accumulates should be enough to make you understand that opinions will differ greatly. I, myself believe we still have basic conservative values to discuss and promote. So what if you get burned a little on the way. Did you think yours was the only opinion that mattered? I would hope no one here is that naive.
I agree that there are certain individuals, that it appears their only purpose in on this forum is to piss on everyone else's cornflakes, but surely that should not stifle your goals or your intellect in the grand scheme of life. After all, we are only here but an instant, stop thinking you are so important that the world cannot get by without your 2 cents worth. More than likely we need your input. Tuck your ego back into your shorts and lets get on with it.
It seems to me you are taking the easy way out by leaving and shucking your responsibilities to your peers. Giving up is always easier to do than standing and taking the flack. Are you really going to take these idiots to heart? Personally I expect more from my fellow FReepers.
Of course this is only my opinion and I could be wrong, but at least I will fight for it instead of turning tail and running. If your feelings get hurt that easily, then perhaps you were in the wrong place to start with.
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posted on
04/20/2005 9:14:03 PM PDT
by
Allosaurs_r_us
(for a fee........I'm happy to be........Your BACKDOOR MAN!....Dirty Deeds Done Dirt Cheap!)
To: hocndoc
So you deny that she verbally expressed to at least three people on three separate occassions a desire not to live in a brain damaged state, with no hope of recovery, being kept alive solely by artificial means?
Are you saying that these three individuals conspired to intentionally lie under oath, subject to a penalty of perjury?
Are you saying that the judge did NOT have "clear and convincing" evidence as to Terri's wishes, and just made up the court order out of thin air?
Are you saying that Judge Greer conspired with the rest of the Florida judiciary to murder Terri Schiavo?
Lastly, do you have any proof whatsoever to back up any of your assertions?
To: Flyer
"I have never known you to be a quitter, to walk away when things got tough."
This says it all! You can't let the few take over and annihilate what the many have started. Isn't that exactly what the DumboCrats are trying to shove down our throats? The few dictating to the many? We will never win if we are willing to play the same game.............
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posted on
04/20/2005 9:29:23 PM PDT
by
Allosaurs_r_us
(for a fee........I'm happy to be........Your BACKDOOR MAN!....Dirty Deeds Done Dirt Cheap!)
To: GOPcapitalist
To: GOPcapitalist
There are a few people on FR who post abusive replies from time to time. Not very many, but it only takes a few to create an overall bad impression. But then, if you really get your feelings hurt, I see that there is a feature called "Report Abuse". I assume the Moderator would take some action if it is indeed over the line.
I think you will regret your decision in a few months.
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posted on
04/20/2005 9:31:30 PM PDT
by
Rocky
To: anonymoussierra; GOPcapitalist
How can you leave after anonymoussierra's plea???
To: Sam's Army
I didn't know Willie left either.
To: robertpaulsen
In my opinion, given that this was NOT a case of euthanasia, Since you brought it up, in my opinion it was murder.
To: Ichneumon
Has anybody been keeping stats? I'm curious how many of the opus writers have been people who supported pulling Schiavo's feeding tube, and how many were against it.
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posted on
04/20/2005 9:40:39 PM PDT
by
beezdotcom
(I'm usually either right or wrong...)
To: RushCrush
"So if you don't like something you can just leave, instead of staying around and trying to make it better? I will never, NEVER understand that mentality."
Now, doesn't that make a hell of lot more sense than turning tail?
If I have anything to do with it, it will become what it was meant for it to be. I suggest if you run into probs like what is being discussed here, we go after the no-minds until they relent. Perhaps the Mods could take a little more interest in those that seem to develop this pattern. I have only been here 6 months and already I could come up with a few
"patterned" posters myself.
Still I don't understand the philosophy of going belly up. That never solves anything and gives the impression of weakness, which is the opposite of what we stand for.
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posted on
04/20/2005 9:48:28 PM PDT
by
Allosaurs_r_us
(for a fee........I'm happy to be........Your BACKDOOR MAN!....Dirty Deeds Done Dirt Cheap!)
To: Aliska
I could see how some of the comments made on different topics on FR could hurt. There appear to be quite a number of "perfect" people on FR who've never made any mistakes and have always led an exemplary life. Then there are some of them who've been darned lucky to not have to face some of the crisis's some of the others of us have so they have no clue and can only look down their noses at choices we might have been forced into or chosen.
There's never been a day in my life that I woke up and made the decision I was going to make mistakes, be mean, hurt people deliberately, etc. I've always done the best I could given the circumstances at the time.
You and I may not share the same opinions on certain topics but I'd like to offer my hand in friendship to you.
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posted on
04/20/2005 10:09:27 PM PDT
by
Sally'sConcerns
(Prayers for TexasCowboy's full success in kicking that nasty cancer's butt. My bet is on TC winning!)
To: Admin Moderator
"Pssstt! It's already there."
I give up! Where?
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posted on
04/20/2005 10:11:30 PM PDT
by
Allosaurs_r_us
(for a fee........I'm happy to be........Your BACKDOOR MAN!....Dirty Deeds Done Dirt Cheap!)
To: Walkin Man
He sure is outspoken...wonder if he's a troll in disguise.
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posted on
04/20/2005 11:35:32 PM PDT
by
trussell
(Prayers for the missing children!)
To: John Lenin
Knock off the attacks please
To: GOPcapitalist
Stick around and grow some leather. If chiuauas are nippinig at your heals step on them.
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posted on
04/20/2005 11:52:04 PM PDT
by
Porterville
(Down with politicians.... Down with Judicial Fiat)
To: GOPcapitalist
I've been around for about 4-5 years (before 9-11) and I must say... I won't let the newbies touch me.... I just don't care enough about what they say.
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posted on
04/20/2005 11:54:49 PM PDT
by
Porterville
(Down with politicians.... Down with Judicial Fiat)
Comment #419 Removed by Moderator
To: GOPcapitalist
I read about your departure from FR on another forum, so I thought I'd drop by & wish you fair winds & a following sea.
I don't post much these days, probably for a lot of the same reasons you're pulling the plug...just browse a couple of forums looking for intel.
Don't worry about getting bored, the next couple of years should create enough excitement to keep you busy just trying to navigate the coming storm ;-)
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posted on
04/21/2005 12:14:11 AM PDT
by
Veracious Poet
(Cash cows are sacred in America...GOT MILKED???)
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